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  • I'm kinda surprised this is allowed to stay up on Youtube. Does this bother anybody?

    ....that video of every part of the temple ceremony is available on youtube for everyone to see? 1.2 million views.



    Sorry, it is not allowed here. --Pelagius.

    I guess it was only a matter of time before someone took a hidden camera through the temple ceremony.
    Maybe there have been internet videos like this out there for awhile, but this was the first one I had seen.

    Even for the non-believer/ex-mo, doesn't this seem like a violation of things some still hold sacred?
    Last edited by pelagius; 06-05-2013, 07:25 AM.

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    I was more curious to read the comments. Newnamenoah sounds like a real piece of work. There are Mormons that make me want to leave, and then there guys like him that scare me into staying.
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    • #3
      It reminds me of the HBO show Big Love except that show has much better cinematography and acting.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
        I was more curious to read the comments. Newnamenoah sounds like a real piece of work. There are Mormons that make me want to leave, and then there guys like him that scare me into staying.
        Especially nice was the comment about how someone rejoiced over a couple of Mormon kids being killed in the Newtown shooting.
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        • #5
          If this had been available to you before you went through the temple for the first time, would you have watched it?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
            Especially nice was the comment about how someone rejoiced over a couple of Mormon kids being killed in the Newtown shooting.
            I just don't understand the level of anger and hatred that brings folks to say crap like that.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
              If this had been available to you before you went through the temple for the first time, would you have watched it?
              This is a great question. I honestly don't think that I would have at that point in my life. It would have felt wrong to my 19 year old self.
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              • #8
                Given the changes to the endowment ceremony 20-25 years ago, I am struggling to understand why people get so bent out of shape that this stuff becomes public? Is it the covenants made? The covenants don't seem any more sacred than those people make at baptism. Is it because of the hand signs and tokens? Do people believe that outsiders knowing the signs and tokens will somehow allow them to gain entrance to the celestial kingdom? I don't think so. Is it because we don't like to be mocked for the clothing? Nobody likes to be mocked I guess, but who cares what people say? This whole notion of secrecy seems like a cultural holdover from the old ceremony.

                Even though I am a heathen, I don't think I would have been too worked up about this even in my most active state, other than I was probably not mature enough to let the mocking comments go.
                Last edited by Flystripper; 06-05-2013, 09:35 AM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                  If this had been available to you before you went through the temple for the first time, would you have watched it?
                  I probably would have. I remember grilling my mom before my mission when I heard about markings on garments. It sounded so weird to me as an 18 year-old kid. I kept pestering her about, and she almost broke down and showed me them. I don't remember if we discussed it further.

                  But yeah in that mindset, I would have been curious.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by VirginiaCougar View Post
                    I just don't understand the level of anger and hatred that brings folks to say crap like that.
                    Move to the deep south and you'll get a better understanding. I'm pretty sure my Evangelical neighbors would kidnap my kids to "save them" if it weren't illegal to actually kidnap kids....or unless they could get away with it. Some militant atheists are the same way.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                      Is it because we don't like to be mocked for the clothing? Nobody likes to be mocked I guess, but who cares what people say? This whole notion of secrecy seems like a cultural holdover from the old ceremony.

                      Even though I am a heathen, I don't think I would have been too worked up about this even in my most active state, other than I was probably not mature enough to let the mocking comments go.
                      I am not very comfortable in the temple but once inside I figure everyone is doing it so it's not a big deal but having others see it bothers me.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                        I am not very comfortable in the temple but once inside I figure everyone is doing it so it's not a big deal but having others see it bothers me.
                        I am very weirded out if I'm the last guy standing making adjustments to my clothing. Over the last several years, I try to be faster.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                          If this had been available to you before you went through the temple for the first time, would you have watched it?

                          I wouldn't have.

                          It would have felt wrong to me to watch it before taking out my endowments.
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                          • #14
                            That line of "God will not be mocked" has always hit me fairly hard when I hear it. Stuff like this makes me wonder what kind of consequence might occur to someone for using this to mock Him. Of course, he is forgiving too. It doesn't bother me, really, though. If people want to know, better they know via a video than from trying to barge in ir sneak in and see it themselves, mostly because when I go there, I just want to be able to reflect on what's troubling my soul, and not wonder if people are there as tourist/voyeurs. The temple is a place where I can go and not have to worry/wonder what others are thinking of me. That's why it's so special.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                              Given the changes to the endowment ceremony 20-25 years ago, I am struggling to understand why people get so bent out of shape that this stuff becomes public? Is it the covenants made? The covenants don't seem any more sacred than those people make at baptism. Is it because of the hand signs and tokens? Do people believe that outsiders knowing the signs and tokens will somehow allow them to gain entrance to the celestial kingdom? I don't think so. Is it because we don't like to be mocked for the clothing? Nobody likes to be mocked I guess, but who cares what people say? This whole notion of secrecy seems like a cultural holdover from the old ceremony.

                              Even though I am a heathen, I don't think I would have been too worked up about this even in my most active state, other than I was probably not mature enough to let the mocking comments go.
                              I'm with you. The effort to kept it secret just makes it all that much more interesting to some folks, and effectively means you only have one side - the side mocking - willing to talk about it.
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