The True Presence of Jesus' Body and Blood in the Sacrament?

[Sleeping in EQ]

John 6:51-59:

I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats of this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh." The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?" So Jesus said to them, "Very truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day; for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me, and I in them. (NRSV)

[beefytee]

John 6:51-59:

I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats of this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh." The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?" So Jesus said to them, "Very truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day; for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me, and I in them. (NRSV)

I do think I can taste the iron in the water that comes out of the tap at the church. So maybe.

[Solon]

John 6:51-59:

I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats of this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh." The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?" So Jesus said to them, "Very truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day; for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me, and I in them. (NRSV)

Transubstantiation always freaks out my students a little when I teach the Reformation. The Council of Trent took special pains to emphasize this point in direct refutation of Luther and Zwingli, and I believe Catholics today still stress "Real Presence" in the Eucharist.

[LA Ute]

Transubstantiation always freaks out my students a little when I teach the Reformation. The Council of Trent took special pains to emphasize this point in direct refutation of Luther and Zwingli, and I believe Catholics today still stress "Real Presence" in the Eucharist.

It's always seemed macabre to me as well. But my good Catholic friends find transubstantiation warm and inspiring and generally wonderful. They also find baptism for the dead pretty weird and spooky. It's all a matter of what one is used to, I guess.