Religion may not survive the internet

[SeattleUte]

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...ef-in-religion


If the internet raises one's knowledge of the world then this study might explain why religion is taking a big hit.

Religious belief is associated with less knowledge as well as lower intelligence

sometimes I see a long article or a book and the first line tells me I'm not going to learn anything I don't know from this and I stop.

[Blueintheface]

sometimes I see a long article or a book and the first line tells me I'm not going to learn anything I don't know from this and I stop.

I know exactly what you mean.

[snowcat]

whenever sometimes I see a post from SU on BYU sports or the Mormon Church a long article or a book and the first line tells me I'm not going to learn anything I don't know from this and I stop.

FIFY

[TripletDaddy]

In my world there are no manner of -ites! However, much of what Gellner wrote resonates with me. Emerson, Benjamin, Gellner--I gravitate to scholars who took the academy to task.

In eight years on these boards, there have been only two or three people who mentioned a connection between my board name and my philosophy. The connection is intentional.

I'd like to see that list of two or three people.

[clackamascoug]

We talked about this last Sunday as I was teaching HP group. The apostasy was a result of the lack of communication, and information. Today, when information comes at you so fast that it's like drinking from a fire hose, the net effect is the same. Correct information regarding the protocol for worshiping correctly, is either unavailable or cannot be found through the white noise of too much information to sift through.

[SeattleUte]

We talked about this last Sunday as I was teaching HP group. The apostasy was a result of the lack of communication, and information. Today, when information comes at you so fast that it's like drinking from a fire hose, the net effect is the same. Correct information regarding the protocol for worshiping correctly, is either unavailable or cannot be found through the white noise of too much information to sift through.

What about Indy's theory that God deliberately causes his one true church to appear absurd.

[FMCoug]

We talked about this last Sunday as I was teaching HP group. The apostasy was a result of the lack of communication, and information. Today, when information comes at you so fast that it's like drinking from a fire hose, the net effect is the same. Correct information regarding the protocol for worshiping correctly, is either unavailable or cannot be found through the white noise of too much information to sift through.

I'm thinking that phrase is a bigger problem than knowing where to find the information.

[All-American]

We talked about this last Sunday as I was teaching HP group. The apostasy was a result of the lack of communication, and information.

I disagree.

[Topper]

I disagree.

What apostasy?

[clackamascoug]

I disagree.

Give me a reason to consider your disagreement.

I think in the centuries immediately following Christ they were good people who went astray from a lack of direction and information that could have kept them on track.

[TripletDaddy]

We talked about this last Sunday as I was teaching HP group. The apostasy was a result of the lack of communication, and information. Today, when information comes at you so fast that it's like drinking from a fire hose, the net effect is the same. Correct information regarding the protocol for worshiping correctly, is either unavailable or cannot be found through the white noise of too much information to sift through.

this is a great quote, substantively and stylistically. It reminds me of that monsterdave quote I have on my CB profile page, in which monsterdave wonders whether we will all eventually want to worship Satan because he has cool electronic weapons that contain magical healing properties.

[All-American]

Give me a reason to consider your disagreement.

I think in the centuries immediately following Christ they were good people who went astray from a lack of direction and information that could have kept them on track.

For starters, the word "apostasy" itself. It doesn't mean a great logistics dilemma. The word describes an active process of turning away, and is often translated as "rebellion" or "mutiny." It strains credibility to suggest that when Paul spoke of an apostasy to precede the lord's return, he was thinking of letters getting lost in the mail.

Secondly, the notion that the primitive church died from a lack of correlation effectively denies the role of revelation, particularly personal revelation. The source of information that is supposed to keep us on track is not the internet broadcast of the semi-annual general conference.

The definition of the word "apostasy" as predicted by Paul and gospel doctrines both suggest that the early church died because the early church members rejected it.

[Solon]

For starters, the word "apostasy" itself. It doesn't mean a great logistics dilemma. The word describes an active process of turning away, and is often translated as "rebellion" or "mutiny." It strains credibility to suggest that when Paul spoke of an apostasy to precede the lord's return, he was thinking of letters getting lost in the mail.

Secondly, the notion that the primitive church died from a lack of correlation effectively denies the role of revelation, particularly personal revelation. The source of information that is supposed to keep us on track is not the internet broadcast of the semi-annual general conference.

The definition of the word "apostasy" as predicted by Paul and gospel doctrines both suggest that the early church died because the early church members rejected it.

Well, it's very unlikely that Paul wrote 2 Thessalonians anyway (the famous "falling away" scripture is at 2.3), so he's off the hook as far as I'm concerned.

I think you guys are being too hard on clack. I don't think it's a stretch to claim that there were a lot of competing messages in the first few centuries of Christianity, and early adherents had little direction on which writings & teachings to follow. Based on what we know about early Christianity, the notion that there was an original gospel & church, completely finished and "restored" that people eventually departed from is less likely than clack's suggestion that lots of goop got mixed into the gospel sauce while they were baking the church casserole.

I don't really believe in The Apostasy either. apostasy with a lower-case "a", sure.

[clackamascoug]

My use of the word apostasy is a product of the brainwashing I received while serving a mission, and was misused in attempting to communicate my thoughts on the "falling away" from the truth prior to the events of the Nicene Creed. My calling the saints of that time "good people" supports the direction I was going by saying it was a communication problem not a rebellious act. In the future I will be more careful when choosing my words, and I'm sure the hobbyist wordsmiths will correct me in the future should the occasion arise. I thank them in advance.

[FMCoug]

My use of the word apostasy is a product of the brainwashing I received while serving a mission, and was misused in attempting to communicate my thoughts on the "falling away" from the truth prior to the events of the Nicene Creed. My calling the saints of that time "good people" supports the direction I was going by saying it was a communication problem not a rebellious act. In the future I will be more careful when choosing my words, and I'm sure the hobbyist wordsmiths will correct me in the future should the occasion arise. I thank them in advance.

Well the one thing that is pretty clear from Paul's writings is that there was definitely some miscommunication and/or freelancing by some of the various congregations that had to be corrected.