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  • #31
    Originally posted by YOhio View Post
    Interesting that SU hates religion so much. Know who else hated religion? Karl Marx and the Commies.
    Fascism and Communism were religions. They learned everything from state religions and theocracies. The communists even advocated "faith" in their movement. But you know this.
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

    --Jonathan Swift

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    • #32
      Originally posted by byu71 View Post
      Answer me this question.

      Did scientists always know the earth was round and earth orbited the sun?

      I will bet God has always known.
      scientists have known as long as they have existed on the earth. Figuring that out actually coincided with the advent of science as such. As for god, well, I'm waiting for science to tell me about him.
      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

      --Jonathan Swift

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      • #33
        ...seek ye out of the best books words of wisdom; seek learning, even by study and also by faith.
        Not to feed the troll, but faith and science are to go hand in hand. They're not mutually exclusive concepts. I like this talk given by Pres. Kimball. Here are a couple of excerpts:

        Yet secular knowledge can be most helpful to the children of our Father in Heaven who, having placed first things first, have found and are living those truths which lead one to eternal life. These are they who have the balance and perspective to seek all knowledge—revealed and secular—as a tool and servant for the blessing of themselves and others. They know that preeminent among all activities in this life is preparing themselves for eternal life by subjugating the flesh, subjecting the body to the spirit, overcoming weaknesses, and so governing themselves that they may give leadership to others. Important, but of second priority, comes the knowledge associated with life in mortality.
        And this one on building character, with emphasis added by me:

        Of all the treasures of knowledge, the most truly vital is the knowledge of God, of his existence, his powers, his love, and his promises. Through this knowledge, we learn that our great objective in life is to build character. In fact, we learn that the building of faith and character is paramount, for character is higher than intellect, and perfect character will be continually rewarded with increased intellect.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by YOhio View Post
          For all of the talk SU does about science, have you all ever noticed that he never actually posts about actual science? This is a guy who can't even embed a youtube video on Gangnam Style and here he is staking his claim as a chief believer in the sciences. Talk about living on borrowed light.
          Nicely done. I laughed heartily.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
            Fascism and Communism were religions. They learned everything from state religions and theocracies. The communists even advocated "faith" in their movement. But you know this.
            Sounds like something Cleon Skousen would've said.
            "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
            The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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