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  • Northwestcoug
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    Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    I'm not sure tracting has been terminated world-wide, but I know it has in at least some missions, including ours. And yes, the FT missionaries in our area are always looking for things to do.

    I need to push my GA friend harder on my proposal to revamp the service requirement among the Church's young adults. I'm still fine tuning it for my non-existent audience, and yeah, I know I've mentioned it before, but it's a great idea, dammit. Impose the equivalent of universal conscription on all young adults at 18. But give them a choice of proselyting, humanitarian service or military service. Establish the Church equivalent of the Peace Corps for the humanitarian element. There a lot of talented, retired business managers and leaders who would be happy to head this up in place of the usual serve-in-the-mission-home-and-check-missionary-apartments couples missions. Imagine if half of the current force of 80K missionaries chose humanitarian service. If they devote as much time to their work as proselyting missionaries (at least 50 hours a week), you'd have over 100 Million hours of humanitarian service being expended annually around the world. With nearly everyone (I think even most agnostic or nonbelieving youth would jump at the chance to join the humanitarian team) serving, the cultural stigma of not serving a mission would be great reduced. And despite substantially reducing the number of proselyting missionaries, I prophesy that the number of convert baptisms would increase, and the Church's rep for doing good throughout the world would be immeasurably enhanced.
    Wow. This would be a great idea. If this were implemented, I would have a hard time not encouraging my kids to consider a humanitarian mission.

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  • Topper
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    Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    I'm not sure tracting has been terminated world-wide, but I know it has in at least some missions, including ours. And yes, the FT missionaries in our area are always looking for things to do.

    I need to push my GA friend harder on my proposal to revamp the service requirement among the Church's young adults. I'm still fine tuning it for my non-existent audience, and yeah, I know I've mentioned it before, but it's a great idea, dammit. Impose the equivalent of universal conscription on all young adults at 18. But give them a choice of proselyting, humanitarian service or military service. Establish the Church equivalent of the Peace Corps for the humanitarian element. There a lot of talented, retired business managers and leaders who would be happy to head this up in place of the usual serve-in-the-mission-home-and-check-missionary-apartments couples missions. Imagine if half of the current force of 80K missionaries chose humanitarian service. If they devote as much time to their work as proselyting missionaries (at least 50 hours a week), you'd have over 100 Million hours of humanitarian service being expended annually around the world. With nearly everyone (I think even most agnostic or nonbelieving youth would jump at the chance to join the humanitarian team) serving, the cultural stigma of not serving a mission would be great reduced. And despite substantially reducing the number of proselyting missionaries, I prophesy that the number of convert baptisms would increase, and the Church's rep for doing good throughout the world would be immeasurably enhanced.
    This would be a huge improvement over the current efforts. Great idea! May you live to see it implemented.

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  • PaloAltoCougar
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    I'm not sure tracting has been terminated world-wide, but I know it has in at least some missions, including ours. And yes, the FT missionaries in our area are always looking for things to do.

    I need to push my GA friend harder on my proposal to revamp the service requirement among the Church's young adults. I'm still fine tuning it for my non-existent audience, and yeah, I know I've mentioned it before, but it's a great idea, dammit. Impose the equivalent of universal conscription on all young adults at 18. But give them a choice of proselyting, humanitarian service or military service. Establish the Church equivalent of the Peace Corps for the humanitarian element. There a lot of talented, retired business managers and leaders who would be happy to head this up in place of the usual serve-in-the-mission-home-and-check-missionary-apartments couples missions. Imagine if half of the current force of 80K missionaries chose humanitarian service. If they devote as much time to their work as proselyting missionaries (at least 50 hours a week), you'd have over 100 Million hours of humanitarian service being expended annually around the world. With nearly everyone (I think even most agnostic or nonbelieving youth would jump at the chance to join the humanitarian team) serving, the cultural stigma of not serving a mission would be great reduced. And despite substantially reducing the number of proselyting missionaries, I prophesy that the number of convert baptisms would increase, and the Church's rep for doing good throughout the world would be immeasurably enhanced.

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  • Topper
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    Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
    He meant to say that Church leaders have come to accept that homosexuality is not a choice. He tried to cleverly phrase it by saying that God has chosen to populate his earth with all kinds of people, including homosexuals. It came out as if homosexuals are part of God's plan for multiplying and replenishing the earth, i.e. their reproduction is part of God's plan.
    That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.

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  • Topper
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    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    After reading the article about missionaries, i saw this Op Ed link:

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion...tices.html.csp

    Thought it was pretty good.
    Easier to accept the Church with those perspectives. Good article.

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  • Donuthole
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    He meant to say that Church leaders have come to accept that homosexuality is not a choice. He tried to cleverly phrase it by saying that God has chosen to populate his earth with all kinds of people, including homosexuals. It came out as if homosexuals are part of God's plan for multiplying and replenishing the earth, i.e. their reproduction is part of God's plan.

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  • Topper
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    Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
    I found this line very confusing:



    After reading it a few times, I get what he meant. But what he meant is not what he said.
    What did he mean to say? I don't understand what you believe he meant to say.

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  • Donuthole
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    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Wow. Is that the same Don Gale who used to do editorials on KSL TV? He was a VP at Bonneville Int. Pretty sure that is the same guy.
    I found this line very confusing:

    Church leaders have come to accept the reality that God created gays and lesbians to help populate His world.
    After reading it a few times, I get what he meant. But what he meant is not what he said.

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  • bluegoose
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    Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
    In July, our ward went from having 2 missionaries who weren't able to adequately fill their schedules to now having 6 who have absolutely nothing to do. It is sad to watch.
    Originally posted by BigPiney View Post
    same thing here and they are driving me nuts!
    Same here.

    Our missionaries in my ward really don't tract anymore. They still spend an hour or two everyday in the family history center doing "internet missionary work". All they can really do is message people on facebook that are investigators or in the ward. Apparently our ward internet usage on facebook is pretty low, as they said only about 1 or 2 people will ever respond to their message within that two hour period.

    Last week they called to invite themselves over for dinner, which is fine, as they didn't have anything on the calendar and we were, you know, having dinner that night. The only problem is that I got finished with work at 6:00 and my wife had YW at 7:00. Shouldn't be a problem, as it rarely takes us more than 30 or 45 minutes or so to eat and clean up. Well, my wife left for YW at 7:00 and I needed to start the kids working on homework to get them in bed on time. It wasn't until the 3rd or 4th offer for a ride home at about 7:30 that the elders reluctantly took the hint that it was time to go. They didn't have any other teaching appointments that night, so they thought the most effective thing to do instead was member-missionary work, aka hang out at a members house instead of their own apartment.

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  • HuskyFreeNorthwest
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    If tracting is forbidden what about soap-box preaching in the public square/park? I always enjoyed that because you never knew what you were going to hear, or who was going to argue with you.

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  • Goatnapper'96
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    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Can someone please forward a copy of this article to Eric Mika? TIA.
    His filler should be re-activating Kiki Vandeweigh and Tom Chambers as well as ensuring repentence is preached to those scantily clad Jezebel vixens at Golds Gym. In fact lets just agree that Elder Mika sends his blue planner to us and we will take care of the rest.

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  • Jeff Lebowski
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    Can someone please forward a copy of this article to Eric Mika? TIA.

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  • falafel
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    Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
    I think it is highly discouraged, if not prohibited, from SLC. However, in many missions, including the local mission, it is expressly forbidden. Missionaries here are instructed to find investigators through the member referral system exclusively.
    Not in my corner of the local vineyard.

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  • hostile
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    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Wow. Is that the same Don Gale who used to do editorials on KSL TV? He was a VP at Bonneville Int. Pretty sure that is the same guy.
    Same guy.

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  • Jeff Lebowski
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    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    After reading the article about missionaries, i saw this Op Ed link:

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion...tices.html.csp

    Thought it was pretty good.
    Wow. Is that the same Don Gale who used to do editorials on KSL TV? He was a VP at Bonneville Int. Pretty sure that is the same guy.

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