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    PPIs

    I had my second PPI last night. Yes, my second PPI as an elder in about 16 or so years of being an elder. I think the last one was while I was at BYU. Aren't these things supposed to be done quarterly or annually or something like that?

    It went well. My EQP is a great guy and I like hanging out with him. It was a good discussion and we talked about our callings and he shared some of his frustrations and I shared many of mine. We talked about home teaching and he gave me some vague guidance on what I should look to do as a home teacher from my families. I figured he knew more than he told, but it's nice to have some direction. We then discussed my family in very general terms and made sure I was happy. He then gave me a charge to read my patriarchal blessing soon and to read it more often in the future.

    In all I was very spiritually and emotionally uplifted. There was no guilt for not being a great home teacher (I'm 50% usually), no hard-nosed tactics to get me to serve more, and he just basically asked me to serve more in a Christ-like manner.

    I've never had a personal opinion on PPIs since I've never had them consistently, but I know they get a bad rap around these parts because of some of the overbearing EQPs out there. I just wanted to share my story as I feel really uplifted and spiritually happy today because of the visit by my EQP.
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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    Our stake president wants them done monthly.
    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • #3
      Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
      Our stake president wants them done monthly.
      Of course he does.
      Everything in life is an approximation.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Moliere View Post
        I had my second PPI last night. Yes, my second PPI as an elder in about 16 or so years of being an elder. I think the last one was while I was at BYU. Aren't these things supposed to be done quarterly or annually or something like that?

        It went well. My EQP is a great guy and I like hanging out with him. It was a good discussion and we talked about our callings and he shared some of his frustrations and I shared many of mine. We talked about home teaching and he gave me some vague guidance on what I should look to do as a home teacher from my families. I figured he knew more than he told, but it's nice to have some direction. We then discussed my family in very general terms and made sure I was happy. He then gave me a charge to read my patriarchal blessing soon and to read it more often in the future.

        In all I was very spiritually and emotionally uplifted. There was no guilt for not being a great home teacher (I'm 50% usually), no hard-nosed tactics to get me to serve more, and he just basically asked me to serve more in a Christ-like manner.

        I've never had a personal opinion on PPIs since I've never had them consistently, but I know they get a bad rap around these parts because of some of the overbearing EQPs out there. I just wanted to share my story as I feel really uplifted and spiritually happy today because of the visit by my EQP.
        In my case I went the route of giving folks the opportunity by having PPI's/Ice Cream Socials on the Church 4-6 months of year, usually during young men/young women so the boys can hoover the left over ice cream. I bought the good stuff and made it a family event so folks didn't view it as such a waste. I still got low participation, maybee 25% done semi-annually, and eventually stopped holding the events. However, since HT is so high in my ward, Elders usually get 70% or higher, and things go so smoothly nobody asks. Our ward is isolated from the other two communities within the stake where the folks have more in common, buisnesses are similar and kids go to the same schools, so given the challenges in those units and their proximity to the beautiful people we pretty much get left alone. That floats my boat! But after 4.75 years as the EQP they informed me the final countdown has started counting!
        Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
        -General George S. Patton

        I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
        -DOCTOR Wuap

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        • #5
          I have been EQP for 2.5 years and have yet to have a formal PPI. I did meet with each HT companionship when I last made assignments to introduce the two to each other and give brief background information on their families, offered some counsel and my assistance if they needed. But other than that I have not sat down with each individual. Apparently that is not lax enough to get released.
          "Nobody listens to Turtle."
          -Turtle
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          • #6
            We had PPIs with companionships who had members that were in special need to

            1. Ensure those needs were being met
            2. Ensure that their needs and what was being done in meeting those needs were being reported to the bishop

            Beyond that, we didn't PPI.
            Everything in life is an approximation.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
              Our stake president wants them done monthly.
              Ours does as well. Our HPGL has said to him and the bishop on more than one occasion. "That's nice." And just does them quarterly.
              "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

              Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                I have been EQP for 2.5 years and have yet to have a formal PPI. I did meet with each HT companionship when I last made assignments to introduce the two to each other and give brief background information on their families, offered some counsel and my assistance if they needed. But other than that I have not sat down with each individual. Apparently that is not lax enough to get released.
                Being lax is hard. Try harder.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                  Our stake president wants them done monthly.
                  Same.

                  I get about 1 per year.

                  I've never had a negative experience EXCEPT that I was urged to ascertain whether my HT families were reading the scriptures regularly and report my findings up to the EQP.

                  I had one a few months ago and the guy was really cool. His only question was, "Do your HT families feel comfortable calling you to ask for a blessing? If not, can you do what you need to do to make sure they are?" It was a good question and a great way to assess my relationships with the families, etc.
                  Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                  "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                    We had PPIs with companionships who had members that were in special need to

                    1. Ensure those needs were being met
                    2. Ensure that their needs and what was being done in meeting those needs were being reported to the bishop

                    Beyond that, we didn't PPI.
                    I'll just clarify that it felt nice that, for once, someone from church actually asked me how my job was doing and how my calling was going outside of my usual circle of friends. I'm the type of guy that people don't worry about, you know, the guy who seemingly has his spiritual ducks in a row, so it was nice to have a church leader actually give a listening ear even if what we discussed was simply mundane.

                    I'd never advocate for monthly PPIs or even quarterly. I'd be happy with annual PPIs, as long as they go as well as this one. The last thing I want is a EQP asking me how much I read my scriptures, if I attend the temple, or other things like that.
                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                      I had my second PPI last night. Yes, my second PPI as an elder in about 16 or so years of being an elder. I think the last one was while I was at BYU. Aren't these things supposed to be done quarterly or annually or something like that?

                      It went well. My EQP is a great guy and I like hanging out with him. It was a good discussion and we talked about our callings and he shared some of his frustrations and I shared many of mine. We talked about home teaching and he gave me some vague guidance on what I should look to do as a home teacher from my families. I figured he knew more than he told, but it's nice to have some direction. We then discussed my family in very general terms and made sure I was happy. He then gave me a charge to read my patriarchal blessing soon and to read it more often in the future.

                      In all I was very spiritually and emotionally uplifted. There was no guilt for not being a great home teacher (I'm 50% usually), no hard-nosed tactics to get me to serve more, and he just basically asked me to serve more in a Christ-like manner.

                      I've never had a personal opinion on PPIs since I've never had them consistently, but I know they get a bad rap around these parts because of some of the overbearing EQPs out there. I just wanted to share my story as I feel really uplifted and spiritually happy today because of the visit by my EQP.

                      never had one.

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                      • #12
                        The EQP just has a conference call with my HTC and I about once a quarter. That is the closest thing I had to a PPI.
                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • #13
                          As a EQP I only organized a formal PPI night once. It went well, but I found other ways to keep check on the pulse of the Quorum Members. As a Bishopric Counselor, I had a PPI with the Bishop every month, and they were actually a good time to have a one on one with the Boss. I came to expect and like them. Our HPG has an annual push... but it soon falls apart as nobody cares to show up.

                          I think a annual PPI is the right number. I've also instructed our Home Teacher to come once a season. I think that is a good number for active all cylinder families.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                            never had one.
                            Nor have I. Not once in all these years. And I am an old-timer!
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                            • #15
                              I've never had one.

                              The current EQPresidency in my ward threatened PPIs, but in 6 months, nothing has materialized.

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