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Oh man, I can totally see an increase in converts in Brazil because of this.Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
God forgives many things for an act of mercyAlessandro Manzoni
Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.
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Federal judge declares Utah polygamy law unconstitutional
District court ruling finds key parts of Utah polygamy laws unconstitutional.
A U.S. District Court judge has sided with the polgyamous Brown family, ruling that key parts of Utah’s polygamy laws are unconstitutional.
Judge Clark Waddoups’ 91-page ruling, issued Friday, sets a new legal precedent in Utah, effectively decriminalizing polygamy. It is the latest development in a lawsuit filed by the family of Kody Brown, who became famous while starring in cable TV channel TLC’s reality series "Sister Wives." The show entered a fourth season at the end of the summer.
Waddoups’ ruling attacks the parts of Utah’s law making cohabitation illegal. In the introduction, Waddoups says the phrase "or cohabits with another person" is a violation of both the First and 14th amendments. Waddoups later writes that while there is no "fundamental right" to practice polygamy, the issue really comes down to "religious cohabitation." In the 1800s — when the mainstream LDS Church still practiced polygamy — "religious cohabitation" in Utah could have actually resulted in "multiple purportedly legal marriages." Today, however, simply living together doesn’t amount to being "married," Waddoups writes.
"The court finds the cohabitation prong of the Statute unconstitutional on numerous grounds and strikes it," Waddoups later writes.
Utah’s bigamy statute technically survived the ruling. However, Waddoups took a narrow interpretation of the words "marry" and "purports to marry," meaning that bigamy remains illegal only in the literal sense — when someone fraudulently acquires multiple marriage licences.
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I wonder if Obamacare is less for unmarried polygamist as well."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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As much as I dislike polygamy, that is the right ruling.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Posthttp://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56...ltrib.html.csp
I wonder if Obamacare is less for unmarried polygamist as well."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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I think the Church isn't going to rally the troops against this development.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.
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This is really a no-brainer, really. One can make good arguments against sanctioning polygamous marriage. It is very hard, on the other hand, to defend criminalizing polygamous living arrangements in light of recent Supreme Court cases.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostAs much as I dislike polygamy, that is the right ruling.
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I doubt that they will rally the troops with phone trees and donations to some sort of campaign but I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see it denounced from the pulpit and in print without the slightest hint of irony.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostI think the Church isn't going to rally the troops against this development.Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost.
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But it is a threat to traditional marriage!Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostI think the Church isn't going to rally the troops against this development."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Harry Tic View PostI doubt that they will rally the troops with phone trees and donations to some sort of campaign but I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see it denounced from the pulpit and in print without the slightest hint of irony.
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I would be very surprised if they said anything beyond restating the Church's current position on polygamy. What is there to denounce?Originally posted by Harry Tic View PostI doubt that they will rally the troops with phone trees and donations to some sort of campaign but I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see it denounced from the pulpit and in print without the slightest hint of irony.
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You mean other than the deterioration of the traditional family?Originally posted by UVACoug View PostI would be very surprised if they said anything beyond restating the Church's current position on polygamy. What is there to denounce?
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There's nothing to denounce. The church still believes in polygamy and polygamous sealings are performed all the time, even today. The Manifesto was only a temporary ban brought on by political pressure. Of course, I doubt the church will lift that ban now, especially since it's much more politically expedient to keep it in place and if the whole PH ban thing has shown us God sometimes changes his doctrine to alleviate political persecution.Originally posted by UVACoug View PostI would be very surprised if they said anything beyond restating the Church's current position on polygamy. What is there to denounce?
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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I think I'll wait for the next lds.org release before I claim what the church does or doesn't believe concerning polygamy.Originally posted by Moliere View PostThere's nothing to denounce. The church still believes in polygamy and polygamous sealings are performed all the time, even today. The Manifesto was only a temporary ban brought on by political pressure. Of course, I doubt the church will lift that ban now, especially since it's much more politically expedient to keep it in place and if the whole PH ban thing has shown us God sometimes changes his doctrine to alleviate political persecution.
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