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    So I was the "Priesthood" (that is what they uniformly called me) at the Stake Young Women's Camp one night last week. Some random thoughts:

    1) they eat far far better then I ever did as a boy scout--chicken alfredo for dinner, stuffed french toast for breakfast, gourmet sugar cookies with fluffy frosting for a snack;

    2) they don't know anything about fire safety--I saw half a dozen untended fires as they all traipsed off to fireside and later to singing in the trees--every scoutmaster I have ever had is turning over in his grave;

    3) they had some weird thing with "mascots"--a full-sized man-doll thing that they kept and tried to guard against the other ward girls from stealing him--which ever ward captured enough man-dolls got some prize--apparently they ended it early because some girls were getting pretty feisty about the whole thing--weird;

    4) the YW leaders are saints--putting to bed a pack of teenage girls is tougher than putting to bed my old scout troop by far;

    5) some girl saw a bear, she thinks, so we had to load out all the food to locked trailers about half a mile away--the boy scouts would never have thought twice about it--of course there was a boy scout eaten by a bear in that canyon a few years ago. . . ;

    6) crafts are the main thing for most of the girls--they really like crafts;

    7) they have 30 minutes of silent time in nature every day--one daughter told me she cried as she watched a spider make his web and two squrills chase each other just amazed at the beauty of creation--this is wonderful and we never did stuff like this when I was a scout.

    8) the friendimony meeting was devoid of mentions of Christ, but full of love--my youngest daughter felt a bit isolated at the camp and at the meeting felt a great outpouring of love from and towards the other girls and the YW leaders--she needed that love and connection and got it in a wonderful way--I'll be more muted in my mockery of friendimonies in the future.

    All in all a great experience for the girls and I am amazed at how much work goes into the whole thing. Boy Scouts just grab some tents and bags and maybe some rice and fishing poles and we head out into the great outdoors. The girls planned this thing for months and months and it looked like it--paper lanterns hanging from the trees, laminated photos of each girl hanging over an entrance to the camp, food better than what we often eat at home. Wow. Thanks to the volunteer leaders who make it all happen.
    A Mormon president could make a perfectly patriotic, competent, inspiring leader. But not Mitt Romney. He is a husked void. --David Javerbaum

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    I'm supposed to go to this in August for one day. I think I'm going to bring my fishing pole.
    Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by The Rambam View Post

      2) they don't know anything about fire safety--I saw half a dozen untended fires as they all traipsed off to fireside and later to singing in the trees--every scoutmaster I have ever had is turning over in his grave;
      Why is it not surprising that every scoutmaster who ever had you in his troop is now dead?
      Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

      There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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      • #4
        Isn't Girl's Camp it's own calling? I could be wrong on this but I was under the impression that Girl's Camp was some one's sole focus and responsibility. Still not sure I'd want that.
        I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
          Isn't Girl's Camp it's own calling? I could be wrong on this but I was under the impression that Girl's Camp was some one's sole focus and responsibility. Still not sure I'd want that.
          Yes, normally a girl's camp coordinator is called.
          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
            Why is it not surprising that every scoutmaster who ever had you in his troop is now dead?
            LOL. I actually think my old scoutmaster is still alive. Not 100% sure.
            A Mormon president could make a perfectly patriotic, competent, inspiring leader. But not Mitt Romney. He is a husked void. --David Javerbaum

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            • #7
              No girls from my ward going, so I don't even have to make up an excuse to not go.

              I am glad you enjoyed your time. I think my daughter will love it in 2 years when she can go.

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              • #8
                I love Girls' Camp. I have gone as "the priesthood" every year since my oldest started going. Everything RamBam said is true ...very different than boy scouts for sure. But cool just the same.
                "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                  I love Girls' Camp. I have gone as "the priesthood" every year since my oldest started going. Everything RamBam said is true ...very different than boy scouts for sure. But cool just the same.
                  I asked my daughter (she's years away from attending girls' camp) if she would rather go to girls camp or on high adventure. I asked her this after MJ and I had finished discussing the types of things we did at our respective camps as youth. She, without hestiation, said she would prefer a more high adventure type camp. I wonder what pull I might have in 4 years in getting things toned up a bit, or maybe they shouldn't be toned up, I really don't know. Maybe I'll just have to take her on some family high adventures instead.

                  On a related note, about a year ago our RSP in the ward was lamenting the crap done at girls camp. She wants the YW to do more high adventure or leadership type activities. She specifically mentioned that these women will likely be working outside the home and even if they aren't they'll be leading and managing homes or local volunteer efforts or even relief societies and we need to train them to have that capability. I liked that comment, but it didn't surprise me given that she's a successful small business owner.
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Rambam View Post
                    7) they have 30 minutes of silent time in nature every day--one daughter told me she cried as she watched a spider make his web and two squrills chase each other just amazed at the beauty of creation--this is wonderful and we never did stuff like this when I was a scout.
                    Most of the Boy Scouts who take the Eagle required Environmental Science Merit Badge do just this at summer Boy Scout camp.

                    Environmental Science Merit Badge
                    Requirement 4 b)
                    Make at least three visits to each of the two study areas (for a total of six visits), staying for at least 20 minutes each time, to observe the living and nonliving parts of the ecosystem. Space each visit far enough apart that there are readily apparent differences in the observations. Keep a journal that includes the differences you observe. Then, write a short report that adequately addresses your observations, including how the differences of the study areas might relate to the differences noted, and discuss this with your counselor.


                    One year I made sure one of my sons did this dunring his "free time" as it was the only time in the daily schedule to do it. His journal went something like this:
                    Observed a pair of Blue Jays in a large Oak tree feeding their young. Also, saw a group of black ants carry part of a dead grasshopper across my observations area - likely bringing it back to their colony. Also, noticed the rest of the troop playing football against another troop but I can't play because I have to do my stupid Eniv Science observations. The other troop just scored a touchdown on a pass I would have intercepted. Dad, I hope this makes you happy!
                    “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
                    "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
                      Most of the Boy Scouts who take the Eagle required Environmental Science Merit Badge do just this at summer Boy Scout camp.

                      Environmental Science Merit Badge
                      Requirement 4 b)
                      Make at least three visits to each of the two study areas (for a total of six visits), staying for at least 20 minutes each time, to observe the living and nonliving parts of the ecosystem. Space each visit far enough apart that there are readily apparent differences in the observations. Keep a journal that includes the differences you observe. Then, write a short report that adequately addresses your observations, including how the differences of the study areas might relate to the differences noted, and discuss this with your counselor.


                      One year I made sure one of my sons did this dunring his "free time" as it was the only time in the daily schedule to do it. His journal went something like this:
                      Observed a pair of Blue Jays in a large Oak tree feeding their young. Also, saw a group of black ants carry part of a dead grasshopper across my observations area - likely bringing it back to their colony. Also, noticed the rest of the troop playing football against another troop but I can't play because I have to do my stupid Eniv Science observations. The other troop just scored a touchdown on a pass I would have intercepted. Dad, I hope this makes you happy!
                      LOL! I recall reading entries like this from the scouts in my unit. Precious memories that should be saved forever.
                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                        I asked my daughter (she's years away from attending girls' camp) if she would rather go to girls camp or on high adventure. I asked her this after MJ and I had finished discussing the types of things we did at our respective camps as youth. She, without hestiation, said she would prefer a more high adventure type camp. I wonder what pull I might have in 4 years in getting things toned up a bit, or maybe they shouldn't be toned up, I really don't know. Maybe I'll just have to take her on some family high adventures instead.

                        On a related note, about a year ago our RSP in the ward was lamenting the crap done at girls camp. She wants the YW to do more high adventure or leadership type activities. She specifically mentioned that these women will likely be working outside the home and even if they aren't they'll be leading and managing homes or local volunteer efforts or even relief societies and we need to train them to have that capability. I liked that comment, but it didn't surprise me given that she's a successful small business owner.

                        Our ward went to Camp Browning (a local BSA HA camp) last year for Girls' Camp. They rapelled, did the "black ops" course, rifle range, etc. They had a blast.
                        "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                          Our ward went to Camp Browning (a local BSA HA camp) last year for Girls' Camp. They rapelled, did the "black ops" course, rifle range, etc. They had a blast.
                          I'm not sure I believe this. This sounds like something that would only happen in a ward outside of Utah.
                          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                          Dig your own grave, and save!

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                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                            Our ward went to Camp Browning (a local BSA HA camp) last year for Girls' Camp. They rapelled, did the "black ops" course, rifle range, etc. They had a blast.
                            Ours is at some Baptist camp near Dallas. Should be interesting.
                            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                            • #15
                              So yesterday they were asking for volunteers Bishop asked someone could you get off work. Guy who is working odd jobs right now trying to find work said pretty easy to do when you are not working. Humor for his situation.

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