Is unbelief curable?

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  • SeattleUte
    Faith crisis consultant
    • Nov 2008
    • 20837

    #1

    Is unbelief curable?

    I've never known any mature unbeliever who once believed and returned to his belief. Is that possible? Electroshock treatments? I know plenty of believers who stopped believing. It's telling, isn't it.
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

    --Jonathan Swift
  • Bengal Cougar
    Captain Sexy Pants
    • Jun 2010
    • 109

    #2
    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
    I've never known any mature unbeliever who once believed and returned to his belief. Is that possible? Electroshock treatments? I know plenty of believers who stopped believing. It's telling, isn't it.
    I have a good friend that fits in this category. There was a time where I could go out for a beer with him, now he tries harder than my family to try and get me to go back to church.
    Last edited by Bengal Cougar; 05-09-2012, 04:47 PM.
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    • smokymountainrain
      Impressive Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 22593

      #3
      Originally posted by Bengal Cougar View Post
      I have a good friend that fits in this category. There was a time where I could go out for a beer with him, now he tries harder than even my own family to try and get me to go back to church.
      SU Bengal Cougar
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      • mUUser
        Giggity
        • Jul 2009
        • 1142

        #4
        Would Hopfrog fit this description? Only he could answer that, I suppose.

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        • clackamascoug
          Banned
          • Dec 2009
          • 9709

          #5
          It is possible. People do get over themselves.

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          • ERCougar
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 10978

            #6
            CS Lewis
            At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
            -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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            • Flystripper
              Degenerate Gambler
              • Nov 2008
              • 14089

              #7
              Edit. Wrong thread
              Dyslexics are teople poo...

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              • CardiacCoug
                вот так штука
                • Nov 2008
                • 11013

                #8
                I don't think you can go back to being a "true believer."

                But unbelief is curable in the sense that occasionally people abandon and then come back to organized religion, believing in a different way than before they left.

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                • Pelado
                  Bald not naked
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21122

                  #9
                  As long as there's a desire to believe, if Alma can be trusted.
                  "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                  - Goatnapper'96

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                  • pellegrino
                    miserere me
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 12100

                    #10
                    I met a guy a few months back who would qualify as such. He told me about how he was a doubting Thomas, had lost his faith and then he saw some videos that gave scientific evidence about the crossing of the Red Sea (don't ask me, this is what he said) he was sold and has been devout ever since.

                    I don't know how this helped him believe in the BoM or JS and I don't know what level of unbelief he was at before he returned to his belief.
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                    • Indy Coug
                      Heartless Bastard
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 18747

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                      I met a guy a few months back who would qualify as such. He told me about how he was a doubting Thomas, had lost his faith and then he saw some videos that gave scientific evidence about the crossing of the Red Sea (don't ask me, this is what he said) he was sold and has been devout ever since.

                      I don't know how this helped him believe in the BoM or JS and I don't know what level of unbelief he was at before he returned to his belief.
                      Sounds to me like his belief/unbelief is like a house built upon the sand.
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                      • lambdacoug
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 3981

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        I've never known any mature unbeliever who once believed and returned to his belief. Is that possible? Electroshock treatments? I know plenty of believers who stopped believing. It's telling, isn't it.
                        I don't it find it that hard to believe that someone might return to a belief. I know of one guy locally that claims to have taken this sort of journey from belief to disbelief to belief again.
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                        • Moliere
                          One man.....one pie
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 27844

                          #13
                          I'd say unbelief is curable (although I wouldn't use those words). I've had personal experience in this realm, maybe not to the same degree as SU is getting at, but to a degree I'd probably fit this description.
                          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                          • ERCougar
                            Junior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 10978

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                            I'd say unbelief is curable (although I wouldn't use those words). I've had personal experience in this realm, maybe not to the same degree as SU is getting at, but to a degree I'd probably fit this description.
                            I don't know if su is trolling here, but I think many Christian thinkers would use those words. 'Doubt not, but be believing.' And 'help thou mine unbelief ' are two really telling phrases regarding the Christian view of doubt.
                            At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                            -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                            • Green Monstah
                              Royal Rooter
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 13944

                              #15
                              In the LDS context, I've seen it a few times, but it is fairly rare. I would actually put myself in this category to an extent. However, in my limited experience, their belief is always highly qualified after returning to the fold and is completely different from their former faith. I'm sure there are exceptions.
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                              "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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