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  • #1

    Teach the controversy...

    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/ma...et-senates-ok/

    Maybe they should pass a bill that the controversy of religion be taught in churches while they're at it.
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    Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/ma...et-senates-ok/

    Maybe they should pass a bill that the controversy of religion be taught in churches while they're at it.
    The fact that evolution is still seen as "controversial" is proof that we haven't been teaching it well enough. The answer is not to muddy the waters any further.
    I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
      http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/ma...et-senates-ok/

      Maybe they should pass a bill that the controversy of religion be taught in churches while they're at it.
      Hi looks like you're back to the Hotel California.

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      • #4
        The fact that evolution is still viewed as controversial by Americans is not so much a factor of how well it is taught in school. It doesn't matter what you teach in school when kids are brianwashed at home and in church. The problem is religion, in my opinion. In fact, I think religion is a huge problem as far as education in general. It teaches people to think irrationally and causes confusion about what it means for something to be true. People end up relying on emotion and instinct rather than hard facts.
        That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
          The fact that evolution is still seen as "controversial" is proof that we haven't been teaching it well enough. The answer is not to muddy the waters any further.
          Nah. It is not important for most HS and college graduates to believe or not believe evolution is an accurate explanation of the origin of species. It is just makes no difference to their lives.

          They did a poor job teaching me in school. They never interjected any religion or anti-evolution teachings, they just didn't teach it much. Kind of like a lot of other subjects. It's just not something to get worked up about.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
            The fact that evolution is still viewed as controversial by Americans is not so much a factor of how well it is taught in school. It doesn't matter what you teach in school when kids are brianwashed at home and in church. The problem is religion, in my opinion. In fact, I think religion is a huge problem as far as education in general. It teaches people to think irrationally and causes confusion about what it means for something to be true. People end up relying on emotion and instinct rather than hard facts.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jacob View Post
              Nah. It is not important for most HS and college graduates to believe or not believe evolution is an accurate explanation of the origin of species. It is just makes no difference to their lives.

              They did a poor job teaching me in school. They never interjected any religion or anti-evolution teachings, they just didn't teach it much. Kind of like a lot of other subjects. It's just not something to get worked up about.
              I disagree with this strongly. Should we also not teach true history because it doesn't affect the future day to day lives of students?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                Nah. It is not important for most HS and college graduates to believe or not believe evolution is an accurate explanation of the origin of species. It is just makes no difference to their lives.

                They did a poor job teaching me in school. They never interjected any religion or anti-evolution teachings, they just didn't teach it much. Kind of like a lot of other subjects. It's just not something to get worked up about.
                Until they grow up and find themselves in public office.
                I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                  Nah. It is not important for most HS and college graduates to believe or not believe evolution is an accurate explanation of the origin of species. It is just makes no difference to their lives.
                  This is a load of crap. High school is not DeVry, teaching you only what you need to know to get a job in your chosen vocation.

                  Whether or not something is anticipated to make a difference in a student's life is not an appropriate litmus test for whether something should be taught in school.

                  The theories and principles of evolution are so widely accepted in the scientific world that I think an education which does not adequately address them is deficient.

                  Your statement is evidence of how narrow your world view has been made by political propaganda.
                  If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
                    Your statement is evidence of how narrow your world view has been made by political propaganda.
                    I have no idea how you reached that leap. What's what I said got to do with political propaganda? Strange. Narrow world view?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                      I have no idea how you reached that leap. What's what I said got to do with political propaganda? Strange. Narrow world view?
                      The doubting of evolution is a very well-known and commonly argued position of the religious right, and it is extremely politicized. Or haven't you seen any news over the last ten years?
                      If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
                        The doubting of evolution is a very well-known and commonly argued position of the religious right, and it is extremely politicized. Or haven't you seen any news over the last ten years?
                        Jacob isn't like all those right-wing religious fanatics, he just shares all the same positions.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
                          Jacob isn't like all those right-wing religious fanatics, he just shares all the same positions.
                          Two of the most misunderstood people on CUF are posting in this thread.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                            Nah. It is not important for most HS and college graduates to believe or not believe evolution is an accurate explanation of the origin of species. It is just makes no difference to their lives.

                            They did a poor job teaching me in school. They never interjected any religion or anti-evolution teachings, they just didn't teach it much. Kind of like a lot of other subjects. It's just not something to get worked up about.
                            It would appear to this disinterested reader that you view education as a means to an end. That line of thinking is the realm of the unsagacious.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
                              The doubting of evolution is a very well-known and commonly argued position of the religious right, and it is extremely politicized. Or haven't you seen any news over the last ten years?
                              And? I haven't doubted evolution. I haven't advocated teaching creationism or anything similar. And I don't really care for the "religious right." So what's my comment got to do with political propaganda and a narrow world view?

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