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    I enjoy teaching the lesson each week, but I am haunted by the idea of what it would be like if the board regulars showed up in my class. I actually prepare my presentation with you in mind, with the intent of saying things that would not be regarded as spiritually or intellectually irresponsible. With an imaginary audience ranging from SU to Adam to Tex, this is a challenging mental exercise.

    Today’s lesson (Lesson 13, for those of you following along at home) was a discussion of Joseph Smith’s role in bringing forth the Word of God in this dispensation. Keeping in mind my CUF audience, I was struck this week by Obama’s latest approval ratings which show that well over 80% of the Dems approve of the job he’s doing, while only around 20% of Republicans do. While the split is certainly not surprising, the noteworthy point is that the gap between the perceptions of the Dems and the GOP is the greatest it has ever been for a U.S. President. Isn’t it interesting that people see what they want to see?

    As for Joseph Smith, most fair minded nonbelievers would grant he was an extraordinary person with considerable charismatic gifts and some remarkable accomplishments during his short life. But those same observers would also dismiss the veracity of many of the prophet’s claims, and point out a number of apparent flaws in his character and performance. I would expect a very wide gap in Smith’s approval rating among the residents of 1840’s Illinois (or the denizens of 2009 CUF, for that matter).

    Although I referred to them in the abstract, we didn’t talk about the flaws or shortcomings in the class, as the class is sophisticated enough to be familiar with them (we have some Fawn Brodie devotees, apparently). Unless one has obtained a spiritual witness of the truths contained in the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and other writings, one’s Joseph Smith approval rating will be, at best, somewhere in the mid-range. If one delights in his flaws and focuses on his foibles, one will be as Rush:Barack.

    I’m not trying to make a point here and I realize the foregoing is rather pedestrian, but I just wanted to mention that you affect my lesson prep, and sometimes that’s a heavy burden. Next week: The Law of Consecration. Feel free to weigh in.

  • #2
    Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    I enjoy teaching the lesson each week, but I am haunted by the idea of what it would be like if the board regulars showed up in my class. I actually prepare my presentation with you in mind, with the intent of saying things that would not be regarded as spiritually or intellectually irresponsible. With an imaginary audience ranging from SU to Adam to Tex, this is a challenging mental exercise.

    Today’s lesson (Lesson 13, for those of you following along at home) was a discussion of Joseph Smith’s role in bringing forth the Word of God in this dispensation. Keeping in mind my CUF audience, I was struck this week by Obama’s latest approval ratings which show that well over 80% of the Dems approve of the job he’s doing, while only around 20% of Republicans do. While the split is certainly not surprising, the noteworthy point is that the gap between the perceptions of the Dems and the GOP is the greatest it has ever been for a U.S. President. Isn’t it interesting that people see what they want to see?

    As for Joseph Smith, most fair minded nonbelievers would grant he was an extraordinary person with considerable charismatic gifts and some remarkable accomplishments during his short life. But those same observers would also dismiss the veracity of many of the prophet’s claims, and point out a number of apparent flaws in his character and performance. I would expect a very wide gap in Smith’s approval rating among the residents of 1840’s Illinois (or the denizens of 2009 CUF, for that matter).

    Although I referred to them in the abstract, we didn’t talk about the flaws or shortcomings in the class, as the class is sophisticated enough to be familiar with them (we have some Fawn Brodie devotees, apparently). Unless one has obtained a spiritual witness of the truths contained in the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and other writings, one’s Joseph Smith approval rating will be, at best, somewhere in the mid-range. If one delights in his flaws and focuses on his foibles, one will be as Rush:Barack.

    I’m not trying to make a point here and I realize the foregoing is rather pedestrian, but I just wanted to mention that you affect my lesson prep, and sometimes that’s a heavy burden. Next week: The Law of Consecration. Feel free to weigh in.
    PAC, just try to imagine me sitting on the front row with a knowing but friendly smile, perhaps doing my best to broker disputes among the class members. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure that's such a reassuring image . . . .
    “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
    ― W.H. Auden


    "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
    -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
      PAC, just try to imagine me sitting on the front row with a knowing but friendly smile, perhaps doing my best to broker disputes among the class members. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure that's such a reassuring image . . . .
      Funny you'd mention that, because there is a fellow (my predecessor in the calling, a former bishop, and a lawyer) in the second row who reminds me of you. So, in fact, you ARE there every week and I appreciate your contributions, although you make me feel a bit inferior.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
        I enjoy teaching the lesson each week, but I am haunted by the idea of what it would be like if the board regulars showed up in my class. I actually prepare my presentation with you in mind, with the intent of saying things that would not be regarded as spiritually or intellectually irresponsible. With an imaginary audience ranging from SU to Adam to Tex, this is a challenging mental exercise.

        Today’s lesson (Lesson 13, for those of you following along at home) was a discussion of Joseph Smith’s role in bringing forth the Word of God in this dispensation. Keeping in mind my CUF audience, I was struck this week by Obama’s latest approval ratings which show that well over 80% of the Dems approve of the job he’s doing, while only around 20% of Republicans do. While the split is certainly not surprising, the noteworthy point is that the gap between the perceptions of the Dems and the GOP is the greatest it has ever been for a U.S. President. Isn’t it interesting that people see what they want to see?

        As for Joseph Smith, most fair minded nonbelievers would grant he was an extraordinary person with considerable charismatic gifts and some remarkable accomplishments during his short life. But those same observers would also dismiss the veracity of many of the prophet’s claims, and point out a number of apparent flaws in his character and performance. I would expect a very wide gap in Smith’s approval rating among the residents of 1840’s Illinois (or the denizens of 2009 CUF, for that matter).

        Although I referred to them in the abstract, we didn’t talk about the flaws or shortcomings in the class, as the class is sophisticated enough to be familiar with them (we have some Fawn Brodie devotees, apparently). Unless one has obtained a spiritual witness of the truths contained in the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and other writings, one’s Joseph Smith approval rating will be, at best, somewhere in the mid-range. If one delights in his flaws and focuses on his foibles, one will be as Rush:Barack.

        I’m not trying to make a point here and I realize the foregoing is rather pedestrian, but I just wanted to mention that you affect my lesson prep, and sometimes that’s a heavy burden. Next week: The Law of Consecration. Feel free to weigh in.
        Joseph Smith is a sort of anti-hero for me. I am dazzled by his achievement. I can't help but be fascinated by the power hungry, insatiably ambitious, philandering, impersonating, and fearless mad prophet. The authentic, enigmatic Joseph is infinitely more interesting to me than the Joseph of LDS hagiography. He is America's Muhammad. In his own right one of the most accomplished and interesting Americans ever. I totally get Harold Bloom's fascination with him, and agree with Bloom that he is an authentic prophet, in the same way that Bloom intended when he said it. In my own way, I love Joseph. I give him high approval ratings. His successors, not so high.
        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

        --Jonathan Swift

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        • #5
          I found myself sitting in Sunday School today thinking how great it would be to have a class of CUFers. I started thinking about the thread here a couple months ago about did Jesus commit suicide, and thought what if church could be thought provoking?
          Get confident, stupid
          -landpoke

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          • #6
            PAC I do the same thing though not with CUFers (sorry) but with my co-workers. I'm lucky enough to only teach every other week though. If you could go ahead and post your lesso....errr thoughts about the lesson, each week say by Saturday at 10 pm or so, that would be just great. Mmmmkay?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
              I enjoy teaching the lesson each week, but I am haunted by the idea of what it would be like if the board regulars showed up in my class. I actually prepare my presentation with you in mind, with the intent of saying things that would not be regarded as spiritually or intellectually irresponsible. With an imaginary audience ranging from SU to Adam to Tex, this is a challenging mental exercise.

              Today’s lesson (Lesson 13, for those of you following along at home) was a discussion of Joseph Smith’s role in bringing forth the Word of God in this dispensation. Keeping in mind my CUF audience, I was struck this week by Obama’s latest approval ratings which show that well over 80% of the Dems approve of the job he’s doing, while only around 20% of Republicans do. While the split is certainly not surprising, the noteworthy point is that the gap between the perceptions of the Dems and the GOP is the greatest it has ever been for a U.S. President. Isn’t it interesting that people see what they want to see?

              As for Joseph Smith, most fair minded nonbelievers would grant he was an extraordinary person with considerable charismatic gifts and some remarkable accomplishments during his short life. But those same observers would also dismiss the veracity of many of the prophet’s claims, and point out a number of apparent flaws in his character and performance. I would expect a very wide gap in Smith’s approval rating among the residents of 1840’s Illinois (or the denizens of 2009 CUF, for that matter).

              Although I referred to them in the abstract, we didn’t talk about the flaws or shortcomings in the class, as the class is sophisticated enough to be familiar with them (we have some Fawn Brodie devotees, apparently). Unless one has obtained a spiritual witness of the truths contained in the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and other writings, one’s Joseph Smith approval rating will be, at best, somewhere in the mid-range. If one delights in his flaws and focuses on his foibles, one will be as Rush:Barack.

              I’m not trying to make a point here and I realize the foregoing is rather pedestrian, but I just wanted to mention that you affect my lesson prep, and sometimes that’s a heavy burden. Next week: The Law of Consecration. Feel free to weigh in.
              It would be the mother-of-all-one-ups sessions.
              Everything in life is an approximation.

              http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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              • #8
                If I had a a GD teacher like you and members in the class like CUF, I might consider going to Sunday School again.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                  If I had a a GD teacher like you and members in the class like CUF, I might consider going to Sunday School again.
                  I think the class would suddenly be frequently attended by the High Council rep.
                  Everything in life is an approximation.

                  http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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                  • #10
                    How many Gospel Doctrine teachers do we have on this board? Between myself, PAC, and OhioBlue that makes three. I think there are others out there, or am I wrong?

                    PAC, I'm with OhioBlue, I'd greatly benefit from you posting your lessons, especially this week. I'd even push the deadline back to Sunday morning
                    Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                    God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                    Alessandro Manzoni

                    Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                    pelagius

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                      How many Gospel Doctrine teachers do we have on this board? Between myself, PAC, and OhioBlue that makes three.
                      Pelagius
                      Everything in life is an approximation.

                      http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                        How many Gospel Doctrine teachers do we have on this board? Between myself, PAC, and OhioBlue that makes three. I think there are others out there, or am I wrong?

                        PAC, I'm with OhioBlue, I'd greatly benefit from you posting your lessons, especially this week. I'd even push the deadline back to Sunday morning
                        *Raises hand*

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                          *Raises hand*
                          until you get the call from the SP...
                          At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                          -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                            until you get the call from the SP...
                            Lol. No threat of that.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                              Pelagius
                              Pelagius is a former GD instructor.
                              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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