Before colonization anyone besides Lehi and Muleks seed here?

[grapevine]

Did a search on if Jaredites were around some author thinks that this was a land for there inheritance and everyone here was a descendant of Lehi, people that came with him or Mulek.

Of course this was a land for there inheritance but were in the Book of Mormon does it say there was no one else here. I think only a small percentage of pre columbian people were of Lehi and Muleks people.

People just didn't advertise the new world. Vikings didn't say much about it. People that found this place either didn't go back or advertise it. I think there were many people here besides Lehi seed pre colonization time. And I think there were many Jaredites still around. How do you explain the eskimoes being here?

book of mormon people small part of people that were here before European colonization.

[NorthwestUteFan]

People crossed the land bridge from Asia around 12,000 years ago, so I would say "Yes". The overwhelming majority (probably all) of peoples on the American continents are directly linked to those original Asian settlers, as proven by DNA evidence. In fact even their dogs trace their DNA from Asian origins.

Sorry, just being honest.

[All-American]

People crossed the land bridge from Asia around 12,000 years ago, so I would say "Yes". The overwhelming majority (probably all) of peoples on the American continents are directly linked to those original Asian settlers, as proven by DNA evidence. In fact even their dogs trace their DNA from Asian origins.

Sorry, just being honest.

Well, since we know that the earth was formed 6,000 years ago, we already know that your opinion is wrong. We can also safely assume that DNA, like dinosaurs, is just a trick God gave us to make sure that we believe in him.

[NorthwestUteFan]

What a horrible thing to say, you blasphemer! It was obvious that the devil manipulated the rocks into fossils and falsified the DNA evidence to capture our souls through the wickedness of science!

[Indy Coug]

I think it's clear that there were numerous people living in the Americas at the time of Nephi's arrival, including in the area where Nephi arrived.

[jay santos]

I think it's clear that there were numerous people living in the Americas at the time of Nephi's arrival, including in the area where Nephi arrived.

Most people seem to see a conflict with the narrow view of the BOM (ie, Americas already populated, very small geographical region, Lehites being absorbed into larger culture, etc.) and the expansive view which comes along with accepting the Zelph account.

[Jacob]

I think it's clear that there were numerous people living in the Americas at the time of Nephi's arrival, including in the area where Nephi arrived.

It is not clear from the text. I think it a fair inference from the text. But it is not clear.

It is clear from archaeology, etc.

[jay santos]

It is not clear from the text. I think it a fair inference from the text. But it is not clear.

It is clear from archaeology, etc.

Yeah. The church had had the Book of Mormon for over 170 years before this was discussed in any sort of mainstream way. I was college educated and had read the book more than a dozen times and dedicated two years of my life preaching about the book before I even heard the theory. So yeah, I would it's not clear from the text.

[Indy Coug]

Within just a few years after arriving in the Americas, warfare between the "Nephites" and "Lamanites" had already begun. How exactly do you have warfare if you only have 30 to 50 people? At best, that's a feud.


Sincerely,

Hatfields and McCoys

[Jacob]

Yeah. The church had had the Book of Mormon for over 170 years before this was discussed in any sort of mainstream way. I was college educated and had read the book more than a dozen times and dedicated two years of my life preaching about the book before I even heard the theory. So yeah, I would it's not clear from the text.

I had heard it before you did and before going to college. But I generally agree.

To the point about it not being discussed in earlier history, that may be so. But I was interested to hear recently that the book wasn't widely read as it is today by the membership. Or perhaps that it was only read as a religious text without much concern for the history and anthropology. That makes sense.

[jay santos]

I had heard it before you did and before going to college. But I generally agree.

To the point about it not being discussed in earlier history, that may be so. But I was interested to hear recently that the book wasn't widely read as it is today by the membership. Or perhaps that it was only read as a religious text without much concern for the history and anthropology. That makes sense.

Well you're younger than me. None of this apologetic stuff was talked about much before the the internet became popular in the late 90's.

[Jacob]

Within just a few years after arriving in the Americas, warfare between the "Nephites" and "Lamanites" had already begun. How exactly do you have warfare if you only have 30 to 50 people? At best, that's a feud.


Sincerely,

Hatfields and McCoys

How do Nephi and Laman become rulers of a large indigenous populations after only a few years such that the indigenous population at war is Nephite vs Lamante?

[jay santos]

How do Nephi and Laman become rulers of a large indigenous populations after only a few years such that the indigenous population at war is Nephite vs Lamante?

Skillz. That's the apologist answer, at least. They knew stuff from the Old World that gave them influence over the natives.

[falafel]

How do Nephi and Laman become rulers of a large indigenous populations after only a few years such that the indigenous population at war is Nephite vs Lamante?

And why would the indigenous people adopt the clan names of the newcomers?

[Jacob]

Skillz. That's the apologist answer, at least. They knew stuff from the Old World that gave them influence over the natives.

Cortez did it with Horses, guns, etc, I suppose. But the claim here is that Nephi had maybe 2 dozen people and Laman had another 2 dozen.

My point wasn't to debate this. Merely to point out that the text isn't clear on the issue. I still think Indy makes a fair inference.