Temple Secrecy

[TheBYUGuy]

After short sleeve and knee length garments were introduced in the 20s they still required long sleeve and ankle length garments for worship in the temple. IIRC This policy was changed in the 70s.

The accepted dress code in the temple is for long sleeves. Is this a hard and fast rule these days? What would happen if a sister tried to get into a session wearing mid-forearm length sleeves on her otherwise approved dress?

[pellegrino]

That change in the 20's was highly controversial.

yes it was, and I hope I live to see the day of an equally controversial change to the sleeveless female garment.

[LA Ute]

yes it was, and I hope I live to see the day of an equally controversial change to the sleeveless female garment.

I am hoping for a simple wristband that we can all wear.

[RobinFinderson]

I am hoping for a simple wristband that we can all wear.

The Lord's friendship bracelet?

[Rosebud]

yes it was, and I hope I live to see the day of an equally controversial change to the sleeveless female garment.

I'd love that... but for now I'd be happy with a garment top that had a normal collar instead of doily lace. The sleeves would be okay if they just weren't so floppy. I could also use some bottoms that are more like biker shorts. The waist-high thing just doesn't work... I have to roll down my garment waist just 'cause it's awkward to have it sit a few inches above my jeans. Then I buy tall tops (even though I'm short) so that my top is long enough to tuck. The men's garments are okay because they look like shorts and a T. Since d e l i b e r a t i o n over small changes seems to happen I'm looking forward to something sort of stylin' in let's say.... five years????

[Art Vandelay]

I'd love that... but for now I'd be happy with a garment top that had a normal collar instead of doily lace. The sleeves would be okay if they just weren't so floppy. I could also use some bottoms that are more like biker shorts. The waist-high thing just doesn't work... I have to roll down my garment waist just 'cause it's awkward to have it sit a few inches above my jeans. Then I buy tall tops (even though I'm short) so that my top is long enough to tuck. The men's garments are okay because they look like shorts and a T. Since d e l i b e r a t i o n over small changes seems to happen I'm looking forward to something sort of stylin' in let's say.... five years????

They make the biker short- under armor type bottoms for men. They were a life saver on my week long backpacking trip this summer. I didn't have to pull out the Gold Balm a single time for chafing.

[pellegrino]

I'd love that... but for now I'd be happy with a garment top that had a normal collar instead of doily lace. The sleeves would be okay if they just weren't so floppy. I could also use some bottoms that are more like biker shorts. The waist-high thing just doesn't work... I have to roll down my garment waist just 'cause it's awkward to have it sit a few inches above my jeans. Then I buy tall tops (even though I'm short) so that my top is long enough to tuck. The men's garments are okay because they look like shorts and a T. Since d e l i b e r a t i o n over small changes seems to happen I'm looking forward to something sort of stylin' in let's say.... five years????

all valid complaints I hear weekly if not daily. I don't know who is designing those things for women, but they don't give much thought to a woman's body. I would think that transitioning from normal underwear to the garment is much more difficult for women and it's not because they wore immodest clothes before they went to the temple and are trying to wear them now. What would it take to updated that with some of the features of modern female underwear? You'd think a built in bra would be a no brainer.

[Art Vandelay]

You'd think a built in bra would be a no brainer.

I know my wife would hate that. One she almost always wears the other she almost never wears unless in public.

[Portland Ute]

all valid complaints I hear weekly if not daily. I don't know who is designing those things for women, but they don't give much thought to a woman's body. I would think that transitioning from normal underwear to the garment is much more difficult for women and it's not because they wore immodest clothes before they went to the temple and are trying to wear them now. What would it take to updated that with some of the features of modern female underwear? You'd think a built in bra would be a no brainer.

I can't even imagine Beehive Clothing tying to do a bra. LOL! They can't even get simple underwear and undershirts right that fit most women.

A bra is not a simple thing and a well-fitting bra is important. I can't imagine that disaster that would be.

[Portland Ute]

I know my wife would hate that. One she almost always wears the other she almost never wears unless in public.

SCORE FOR YOU!

[Rosebud]

all valid complaints I hear weekly if not daily. I don't know who is designing those things for women, but they don't give much thought to a woman's body. I would think that transitioning from normal underwear to the garment is much more difficult for women and it's not because they wore immodest clothes before they went to the temple and are trying to wear them now. What would it take to updated that with some of the features of modern female underwear? You'd think a built in bra would be a no brainer.

You know... I held back tears looking in the dressing room mirror the first time I went shopping after I was endowed. I am NOT a shopper and my tears had nothing to do modesty. (I've never really cared for the kind of attention I get when I wear immodest clothes.) It's just that the garments were so ugly. I stood there thinking that wearing ugly underwear was one of the sacrifices I needed to make for God. I bet that's a fairly common thought among women. So warped....

[Rosebud]

I can't even imagine Beehive Clothing tying to do a bra. LOL! They can't even get simple underwear and undershirts right that fit most women.

A bra is not a simple thing and a well-fitting bra is important. I can't imagine that disaster that would be.

Ohhh... and the bra is another issue. The over the garments vs. under the garments issue. What a mess. It just doesn't work to put a bra over garments.

[Pheidippides]

I'd love that... but for now I'd be happy with a garment top that had a normal collar instead of doily lace. The sleeves would be okay if they just weren't so floppy. I could also use some bottoms that are more like biker shorts. The waist-high thing just doesn't work... I have to roll down my garment waist just 'cause it's awkward to have it sit a few inches above my jeans. Then I buy tall tops (even though I'm short) so that my top is long enough to tuck. The men's garments are okay because they look like shorts and a T. Since d e l i b e r a t i o n over small changes seems to happen I'm looking forward to something sort of stylin' in let's say.... five years????

Seriously, what is up with the female bottoms? My wife is in your camp here.

[UtahDan]

I am hoping for a simple wristband that we can all wear.

Ooh, or what about a symbolic necklace?

[TripletDaddy]

all valid complaints I hear weekly if not daily. I don't know who is designing those things for women, but they don't give much thought to a woman's body. I would think that transitioning from normal underwear to the garment is much more difficult for women and it's not because they wore immodest clothes before they went to the temple and are trying to wear them now. What would it take to updated that with some of the features of modern female underwear? You'd think a built in bra would be a no brainer.

one cool thing they might want to do......female garment bottoms with normal underwear sewn over the Gs. Basically you are buying the bottom half of a Nacho Libre-style pro-wrestling outfit. This would save grandmothers the world over the effort of having to purchase and wear both simultaneously. And btw, grandmothers......it isn't working....that slimming effect you are going for.....