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  • scottie
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 5247

    #1

    Washington Post: Five myths about Mormonsim

    The author of this opinion piece pulls no punches re: polygamy in the first myth:
    The campaigns by Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman Jr. for the GOP presidential nomination, along with the popular and profane Broadway musical “The Book of Mormon,” are putting Mormons in the public eye. But common caricatures — not to mention some of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ public relations efforts — create confusion about this 14 million-strong religion. So let’s unpack some misunderstandings about how this faith can engage the world, whether on a mission or in the White House.

    1. Mormons practice polygamy.

    Mainstream Mormons do not practice polygamy today, but it remains part of our history and theology. Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon religion, married at least 33 women (often without the consent of his first wife, Emma) and preached that polygamy was divinely sanctioned. In 1890, more than four decades after Smith’s death, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — the mainstream Mormon Church — yielded to political pressure and phased out the practice. Today, members who marry more than one spouse are excommunicated, but ultra-orthodox splinter groups continue the practice.

    Polygamy remains a source of tension for mainstream Mormons. Mormon public figures routinely play down our polygamous history, saying that only a tiny percentage of 19th-century Mormon families were polygamous. (Historians say it was 20 to 30 percent.) But the LDS Church, which teaches that marriages — or “sealings” — performed in its temples are eternal, has never disavowed elements of Mormon theology suggesting that polygamy will be practiced in heaven. Church policy permits widowed and some divorced men to be sealed for all eternity to more than one wife, while Mormon women may not be sealed to more than one husband. Consequently, some mainstream LDS Church members anticipate polygamy as part of eternity, while others reject it.


    How do you feel about an approach like that? I think it makes even an apostate like me a little uncomfortable even though it's true.
    Last edited by scottie; 08-05-2011, 01:10 PM.
  • Moliere
    One man.....one pie
    • Oct 2009
    • 27820

    #2
    Originally posted by scottie View Post
    The author of this opinion piece pulls no punches re: polygamy in the first myth:




    How do you feel about an approach like that? I think it makes even an apostate like me a little uncomfortable even though it's true.
    I've been pounding this for a while. Of course polygamy is still in our theology, as is the law of consecration, however only the LOC will get airtime on Sunday because it can be spun in a positive way.
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • Pheidippides
      Liberal Feminazi
      • Nov 2008
      • 14759

      #3
      FYI, the author is Joanna Brooks.

      http://joannabrooks.org/bio/
      Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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      • YOhio
        Hipster Mode
        • Nov 2008
        • 26165

        #4
        Originally posted by scottie View Post
        How do you feel about an approach like that? I think it makes even an apostate like me a little uncomfortable even though it's true.
        I thought she did a nice job.

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        • Jeff Lebowski
          Corporate lackey for Jesus
          • Nov 2008
          • 69528

          #5
          Originally posted by scottie View Post
          How do you feel about an approach like that? I think it makes even an apostate like me a little uncomfortable even though it's true.
          What makes you uncomfortable?

          Originally posted by nikuman View Post
          FYI, the author is Joanna Brooks.

          http://joannabrooks.org/bio/
          I like Joanna Brooks.
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          • TripletDaddy
            sweet triple
            • Nov 2008
            • 58186

            #6
            Originally posted by scottie View Post
            The author of this opinion piece pulls no punches re: polygamy in the first myth:




            How do you feel about an approach like that? I think it makes even an apostate like me a little uncomfortable even though it's true.
            The approach seems fine to me. In fact, it seems more straightforward than almost anything the Church has said to the press on these topics.
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            • smokymountainrain
              Impressive Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 22593

              #7
              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              What makes you uncomfortable?



              I like Joanna Brooks.
              very CUFesque comments, IMO. In fact, my thought was...these sound like responses Lebowski would give regarding the church.

              FWIW, that is a compliment.
              I'm like LeBron James.
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              • Pheidippides
                Liberal Feminazi
                • Nov 2008
                • 14759

                #8
                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                What makes you uncomfortable?



                I like Joanna Brooks.
                I do too. Pointing out that she is the author is meant to be a good thing.
                Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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                • Sleeping in EQ
                  Philosopher of Men
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 4188

                  #9
                  I think she was accurate and concise.

                  I also say, "to hell with comfortable." "Comfort" is one of the crowning virtues of correlation and it keeps the Church from actually dealing with issues like polygamy, with issues that aren't simply going to go away.
                  We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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                  • scottie
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 5247

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    What makes you uncomfortable?
                    Because I like Romney and can't imagine that information helps his chances, perhaps.

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                    • Uncle Ted
                      The Big 12 money shot.
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 28853

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
                      I think she was accurate and concise.

                      I also say, "to hell with comfortable." "Comfort" is one of the crowning virtues of correlation and it keeps the Church from actually dealing with issues like polygamy, with issues that aren't simply going to go away.
                      Amen.

                      Maybe to add a bit more discomfort she should had mentioned that Joseph Smith also married (or, at least, proposed to) other people's wives even without the consent of their current husbands. That would have turned up the discomfort level a bit, I think.
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                      • Portland Ute
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 5647

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                        Amen.

                        Maybe to add a bit more discomfort she should had mentioned that Joseph Smith also married (or, at least, proposed to) other people's wives even without the consent of their current husbands. That would have turned up the discomfort level a bit, I think.
                        Maybe toss in a bit of discussion about young girls, too.

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                        • LA Ute
                          Receiver of Memory
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19512

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
                          I think she was accurate and concise.

                          I also say, "to hell with comfortable." "Comfort" is one of the crowning virtues of correlation and it keeps the Church from actually dealing with issues like polygamy, with issues that aren't simply going to go away.
                          This is an entirely curious question: What do you think the church should say or do about that particular issue?
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                          • Sleeping in EQ
                            Philosopher of Men
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 4188

                            #14
                            Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                            This is an entirely curious question: What do you think the church should say or do about that particular issue?
                            What counts as "the church" in your question?
                            We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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                            • LA Ute
                              Receiver of Memory
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19512

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
                              What counts as "the church" in your question?
                              Whatever you meant by it in your post.
                              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                              ― W.H. Auden


                              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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