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  • #31
    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    On the news, they said it was a legit card, so not sure. I know in LA it is pretty common to buy fake SS cards so that they can work. I view it as being as common as HS kids with fake IDs. Not really a huge deal to me if they are using it to work.
    Unless of course they are using someone else's SSN without that person's knowledge.

    Something needs to be done about this. The vast majority of these people are economic refugees looking for a better life. It is insane to deport people that are contributing to the betterment of the economy, the culture, and society.
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
      On the news, they said it was a legit card, so not sure. I know in LA it is pretty common to buy fake SS cards so that they can work. I view it as being as common as HS kids with fake IDs. Not really a huge deal to me if they are using it to work.
      The Ninth Circuit and the Board of Immigration Appeals happens to agree with you. Unfortunately, a certain Immigration Judge in Florence, Arizona does not. FML.
      Last edited by Commando; 06-15-2011, 12:53 AM.
      "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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      • #33
        Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
        Unless of course they are using someone else's SSN without that person's knowledge.

        Something needs to be done about this. The vast majority of these people are economic refugees looking for a better life. It is insane to deport people that are contributing to the betterment of the economy, the culture, and society.
        I don't disagree with this at all. But the minority needs to be smashed. I have a brother that works for the border patrol and the stories he tells from his time in AZ are nothing short of harrowing.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          Is anyone else following the deportation case of a longtime resident and branch president in Utah. His family was just on KSL expressing dismay at the current system. The children appear to be teenagers, confused and frustrated by the thought of possibly having to leave the US to rejoin their father but not wanting to be without him by remaining here. This is a good family that is contributing to their community and we deport the father on a technicality? Yikes. just doesn't seem right to me.

          The only bright spot in tonight's news story was Nadine.
          http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showthread.php?t=43928
          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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          • #35
            Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
            Unless of course they are using someone else's SSN without that person's knowledge.

            Something needs to be done about this. The vast majority of these people are economic refugees looking for a better life. It is insane to deport people that are contributing to the betterment of the economy, the culture, and society.
            Here would be my proposal. The following criteria has to have been met.

            You have to have been in the country at least 5 years. You have to have been on no type of government assistance for at least 4 of those years (that is generous in my mind). No felonies during that time.

            You have to have been learning English during that time.

            Simple qualifications. If you qualify, you get amnesty. If you don't, go back from where you came and get in the legal way.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by byu71 View Post
              Here would be my proposal. The following criteria has to have been met.

              You have to have been in the country at least 5 years. You have to have been on no type of government assistance for at least 4 of those years (that is generous in my mind). No felonies during that time.

              You have to have been learning English during that time.

              Simple qualifications. If you qualify, you get amnesty. If you don't, go back from where you came and get in the legal way.
              Those criteria make sense except for the English part. In order to come to the country legally, you need some sort of visa (work, student) and you obviously can't be committing crimes. There is no requirement to speak English. In fact, do any countries require language fluency to move there?
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              • #37
                Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                Those criteria make sense except for the English part. In order to come to the country legally, you need some sort of visa (work, student) and you obviously can't be committing crimes. There is no requirement to speak English. In fact, do any countries require language fluency to move there?
                I am talking about those that are here and not those who are legally applying to get in. Personally, I want to know those people are planning on becoming and want to be Americans.

                I don't want undocumenteds in the US who are here mainly for employment and are willing to do so illegally. I don't want those who come in illegally to actually in their hearts owing allegiance to some other country. If they have been here 5 years and are attempting to learn English, that is a sign to me they want to be Americans.

                Those who met my criteria, I would be willing to support giving some type of amnesty to. The fellow you brought up in the KSL piece fit my criteria and I wouldn't have booted him.

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                • #38
                  I think every Mormon should read Will Self's The Book of Dave.
                  "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                  The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                  • #39
                    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post




                      I got a good chuckle out of this.
                      "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Commando View Post




                        I got a good chuckle out of this.
                        It took me a minute or so until I got it. I had to look up "de nada"
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • #42
                          Obama, Uchtdorf of like mind on immigration reform: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politic...rants.html.csp
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                            Obama, Uchtdorf of like mind on immigration reform: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politic...rants.html.csp
                            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                            • #44
                              http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/articl...on-immigration

                              I've got a feeling this press release is pretty much the same one given a couple years ago. Nice to see two socialists (DFU and BHO) agreeing on immigration
                              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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