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  • #76
    Originally posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
    i got an email from the EQP this morning informing me (as a reminder?) that I had been assigned to do sealings this Wednesday evening. If I am unable to fill this assignment, it's my responsibility to find someone else to fill it.

    Is this new church protocol or just poor leadership? I try and volunteer for as many things as I am able. I'm at most of the moves, I help with chairs, whatever. But I have 2 young kids and a wife that doesn't like to go to the temple because it still weirds her out, which is a topic for another thread). She's upset about the email and how this is being handled. Although more amused than upset, I agree with her. Assigning volunteer opportunities is one thing, but 2 days notice on a reminder of something that I wasn't ever informed of in the first place?
    There's three pages worth of discussion right now that I'm not going to bother reading, so this has probably been mentioned. But yeah, "assignments" seem to be the thing lately, as we've been asked to do the same by the Stake Presidency. I absolutely hate giving out assignments to go to the temple, and I talked to the EQ President about it recently. We decided that we were going to ask for volunteers first, and then if nobody comes through use the assignments as a last resort.
    So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
      In our case the ever-prevalent criticism is that the temple sits empty most of the time. Church HQ doesn't like that kind of waste, so they respond in the way that they're most accustomed to responding: top-down mandates that get taken care of by the grunts. I'm not sure how far up the chain the actual practicalities of the "solutions" are mandated. Regardless of where the ideas begin, though, things feel the same to those at the bottom of the pyramid.
      Maybe they should quit building temples until they are being used to a satisfactory level?

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      • #78
        If they brought back the polyester jumpsuits, I think it would be easier to find volunteers. I know I you'd have one volunteer right here.
        Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
          Maybe they should quit building temples until they are being used to a satisfactory level?
          Pres. Hinckley had the right idea about building smaller temples. We just need to take this idea to the next level and add mobile temples like the one in the day of Moses. When temple attendance drops off they just pick up the double-wide and move it to the next town.
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
            Pres. Hinckley had the right idea about building smaller temples. We just need to take this idea to the next level and add mobile temples like the one in the day of Moses. When temple attendance drops off they just pick up the double-wide and move it to the next town.
            20 years ago when I was on my mission, my companion got a letter from his mother. She wrote that the church had just announced that that it had purchased a 747, which would be converted to a temple and flown around the world. We thought that was awesome.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post
              20 years ago when I was on my mission, my companion got a letter from his mother. She wrote that the church had just announced that that it had purchased a 747, which would be converted to a temple and flown around the world. We thought that was awesome.
              A cruise ship would be cooler. Can you imagine the retired members lining up to be called on the temple cruise mission? Do shore excursions during the day and temple work in the evenings. And while some are out on shore excursions, others stay back and run the temple for the natives where the ship is docked.

              Maybe even Michael Ballam could do some performances in the auditorium at night.
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                A cruise ship would be cooler. Can you imagine the retired members lining up to be called on the temple cruise mission? Do shore excursions during the day and temple work in the evenings. And while some are out on shore excursions, others stay back and run the temple for the natives where the ship is docked.

                Maybe even Michael Ballam could do some performances in the auditorium at night.
                Be sure to work Charo in there somehow.
                "What are you prepared to do?" - Jimmy Malone

                "What choice?" - Abe Petrovsky

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                  Well, I did ask for conjecture, so I'm in no position to differ with you. However it strikes me as bizarre that empty buildings would be the impetus. Large, empty, mostly unused buildings are the backbone of Mormon Manifest Destiny. All our buildings are under utilized.

                  Is it a revenue play? Operating temples at full capacity isn't exactly driving revenue, unless there is some correlation between increased temple attendance and larger fast offerings, for example. There are more tithe payers than temple attendees and tithing is a prerequisite to attendance anyway, so I don't see increased temple attendance as a driver for increased tithing.
                  Maybe it's purely revenue from the Temple cafeterias.

                  Fewer people in the temple mean fewer dollars spent at the cafeterias.

                  Also, fewer people paying to rent clothing.

                  Not a ton of overhead when your labor force is "volunteer."

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                    If they brought back the polyester jumpsuits, I think it would be easier to find volunteers. I know I you'd have one volunteer right here.
                    As the proud owner of a polyester jumpsuit, let me be the first to tell you that it will not increase your desire to attend the temple.

                    It will, however, help you feel superior to the schmucks wearing those white temple pants with the exterior buttons on the semi-adjustable, non-comfort waist. As they stand in front of the mirror, their white shirt poofing ridiculously out all around the ill-fitted waist, tying their white-on-white tie, you can stroll by with your open collar and polyester lapels flaring proudly, unrestrained.

                    Just don't go overboard with any over-the-head arm movements, or you'll be quickly reminded of the one-piece nature of your attire.
                    Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                    There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                      If they brought back the polyester jumpsuits, I think it would be easier to find volunteers. I know I you'd have one volunteer right here.
                      They can fix you up at myjumpsuit.com...

                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                        As the proud owner of a polyester jumpsuit, let me be the first to tell you that it will not increase your desire to attend the temple.

                        It will, however, help you feel superior to the schmucks wearing those white temple pants with the exterior buttons on the semi-adjustable, non-comfort waist. As they stand in front of the mirror, their white shirt poofing ridiculously out all around the ill-fitted waist, tying their white-on-white tie, you can stroll by with your open collar and polyester lapels flaring proudly, unrestrained.

                        Just don't go overboard with any over-the-head arm movements, or you'll be quickly reminded of the one-piece nature of your attire.
                        I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the only jumpsuit attire with which the lord is pleased includes a white tie.
                        Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                        "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                          They can fix you up at myjumpsuit.com...

                          It says this is corduroy jumpsuit. Also that looks like a pretty sweet photoshop job.
                          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                            It says this is corduroy jumpsuit. Also that looks like a pretty sweet photoshop job.
                            Yes, corduroy wouldn't work for us in the south but I was thinking it would be nice for you folks little bit further to the north. If I lived up that way I would definitely go for the corduroy.
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • #89
                              Now most newer temples have no cafeteria and don't rent clothes. I had to buy my latest temple clothes. I did loan them to other people too. I do remember them renting out jumpsuits. Quit and me tying a tie I have an incurable form of deaconitis still have not figured tie tying out. There are white clip ons and zip ups. My cure. SWK had same problem too. Read son's bio of presidency for that.

                              No revenue from rent or cafeteria there. For assignments we still pass a sheet around and have temple oppurtunities but not assignments. But heard church work is not volunteer. Ask for volunteers few people do it. Such as feeding the missionaries or helping other people. Doesn't get done when volunteered. List in RS excluded Primary, Young Women or less actives. Someone calling helped that way.

                              Thing is you are to do what those over you call you to do. As for sealers not having anything to do I am sure happens on weekdays people that work initatory are the same way. Many are veil workers but I am sure many of them could do sessions when no one shows up. There may be sessions were no one is there so they have to have temple workers.

                              Temple attendence I think goes down when it is closer. Shortly after Orlando was built not too busy during week. More temples means fewere people to go to certian temples. I have not been to Boise since Twin Falls opened. Though would not mind it. It is also hard to get people to get off work to go to temple or cannery. And Gordon had some words about taking employers time for church business too.

                              Speaking of temple clothes HIgh Councilman said was in chapel before session and president walked in said you need to buy your own temple clothes because when the ten tribes return they will take them will be none left. Classic Weed I think as I don't think there hiding anywere.

                              Now many temples don't have chapels with prelude you go straight to endowment room now.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by grapevine View Post
                                Now most newer temples have no cafeteria and don't rent clothes. I had to buy my latest temple clothes. I did loan them to other people too. I do remember them renting out jumpsuits. Quit and me tying a tie I have an incurable form of deaconitis still have not figured tie tying out. There are white clip ons and zip ups. My cure. SWK had same problem too. Read son's bio of presidency for that.
                                I visited the Manti temple once and noticed that a few of the temple folks had on bolo ties (white with white rocks). I haven't tried but have been wondering if I can get away with that at our local temple.
                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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