Can someone please explain this to me, what would be to sacred to share and why? This was an answer to one of my questions today.
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I always assumed it is a poor way to say something is too personal."In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
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My MIL once said that by going back to the temple over years and years, she felt that she had "figured out" the temple ceremony. I asked if she would mind explaining it to us, as we were driving in the car with her son...he was about to leave on his mission. She said that it was too sacred to share and that we would have to figure it out ourselves. She said this nicely, of course. Like RC Vikings, I didn't really understand, nor did I press the issue.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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I think I get this idea. I came RIGHT out with some pretty heavy stuff of mine on this site without hardly batting an eyelash because I've read so much other of your own material that I knew it wouldn't be too poorly received. That's not to say that you guys believe what I say, but you are open to thinking about it at least without feeling the need to poor some clean water over your shoes in my direction.
When something is "too sacred to bear" or whatever, I think the person that says those words is sort of just recognizing his audience's biases. The things I shared on here with a bunch of complete strangers are "too sacred to share" with my Bishop or Elders Quorum President. I could add to that list about 75% of my family. When I'm so overeager to share realizations that I've had, that I don't take into account the current doctrinal flexibility of my audience, I run into some pretty heavy resistance and some pretty lofty words of condemnation.
I told my girlfriend about you guys today. I "corrupted" her with my doctrinal views some time ago and it's been pretty tough for us to enjoy church because of the huge amount of things said that we flat out disagree with on every level. We cope though because we like people and we go to BYU and need to get the HC document signed. She was pretty excited for me. "Oh, baby it's like you finally have your own support group!" Ha ha. You guys are my support group
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Originally posted by taekwondave View PostI think I get this idea. I came RIGHT out with some pretty heavy stuff of mine on this site without hardly batting an eyelash because I've read so much other of your own material that I knew it wouldn't be too poorly received. That's not to say that you guys believe what I say, but you are open to thinking about it at least without feeling the need to poor some clean water over your shoes in my direction.
When something is "too sacred to bear" or whatever, I think the person that says those words is sort of just recognizing his audience's biases. The things I shared on here with a bunch of complete strangers are "too sacred to share" with my Bishop or Elders Quorum President. I could add to that list about 75% of my family. When I'm so overeager to share realizations that I've had, that I don't take into account the current doctrinal flexibility of my audience, I run into some pretty heavy resistance and some pretty lofty words of condemnation.
I told my girlfriend about you guys today. I "corrupted" her with my doctrinal views some time ago and it's been pretty tough for us to enjoy church because of the huge amount of things said that we flat out disagree with on every level. We cope though because we like people and we go to BYU and need to get the HC document signed. She was pretty excited for me. "Oh, baby it's like you finally have your own support group!" Ha ha. You guys are my support group
Yesterday in Sacrament I noticed a guy sitting two rows ahead of me, I sit on the back row. He plays in our golf group now and then. His son plays in the group more often.
I left after Sacrament meeting and it so happened he did too. In the parking lot I said, hey, I didn't know you were in my ward. He looks at me and does several double takes. He says, I didn't know you went to church. You see I am the ayatollah of the big golf group at the club that is known for playing for pretty high stakes. I guess that is why he was surprised.
He tells me he comes rarely. Although his sons are very active, one on a mission, he said he has some real issues with the church and that is why he doesn't come that often. I didn't ask, but he volunteered he drinks alcohol and smokes. I told him that isn't my issue as to why I only go to Sacrament meeting, but I did tell him I thought it was silly of the church to put so much emphasis on the Wof W as to make some people feel uncomfortable about coming.
Now, how does that relate to you. Well, I am one who thinks even those who are uncomfortable with some or a lot ofl the churches teachings should feel welcome at church and participate in the positive stuff until they find something better.Last edited by byu71; 04-25-2011, 07:26 AM.
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I agree with DU Ute. I think it's a way to say someone wants to keep something private. I've also heard some people say it when they feel very emotional about something and can't talk about it without losing composure.Originally posted by RC Vikings View PostCan someone please explain this to me, what would be to sacred to share and why? This was an answer to one of my questions today.
I knew one guy who used that as a bluff to get out of having to pay attention in Sunday School or quorum meetings. If anyone asked a question, he would reply that his feelings or experiences were "too sacred/special to share" and return to playing games on his phone.
In general, it seems to me that the visions and blessings of old that were returning during the 1800s became too sacred to share by the 2000s."What are you prepared to do?" - Jimmy Malone
"What choice?" - Abe Petrovsky
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I have kind of used that on folks who challenge my not going to priesthood and Sunday School. I tell them I have thought long and hard about it. I felt OK about not going so then I prayed about not going and I got a warm peacful feeling and have had it ever since.Originally posted by Joe Public View Post
I knew one guy who used that as a bluff to get out of having to pay attention in Sunday School or quorum meetings. If anyone asked a question, he would reply that his feelings or experiences were "too sacred/special to share" and return to playing games on his phone.
If they challenge me I ask and how would you feel if I challenged your prayers being answered?
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That's brilliant. You get out of church and look very in tune doing it.Originally posted by byu71 View PostI have kind of used that on folks who challenge my not going to priesthood and Sunday School. I tell them I have thought long and hard about it. I felt OK about not going so then I prayed about not going and I got a warm peacful feeling and have had it ever since.
If they challenge me I ask and how would you feel if I challenged your prayers being answered?
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This is the equivalent to the LDS kid "feeling good" about not going on a mission or praying about attending USC for football. I find it a very sophisticated way to deal with the social pressure of the LDS faith.Originally posted by byu71 View PostI have kind of used that on folks who challenge my not going to priesthood and Sunday School. I tell them I have thought long and hard about it. I felt OK about not going so then I prayed about not going and I got a warm peacful feeling and have had it ever since.
If they challenge me I ask and how would you feel if I challenged your prayers being answered?
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It could also have a connotation of "casting pearls before the swine" sort of deal.
If something was very spiritual to someone (which is very hard to communicate in words to someone else)...and they told you about it, and then, you paused briefly as you stared at them, then brayed in their face like a crazed mule....well, I just don't think that would end well in the long run."Newton's First Law of Motion: ...things at rest tend to stay at rest. Things in motion, tend to stay in motion...."
Hmm... Good motivation for me to remain active I guess.
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