Temple Sealings

[smokymountainrain]

This article in Slate today:
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/f...ld.single.html

delves into the exclusive nature of LDS weddings.



The article also highlights a website working to ask LDS leadership to reconsider the policy of waiting a year between civil ceremonies & temple sealings (in the US).

http://familyfirstweddings.com/

I don't know Mary Ellen Robertson, but she shouldn't assume people aren't sufficiently worthy to marry in the temple if they choose to marry first outside the temple. It's really quite unbecoming of her.

[RC Vikings]

This article in Slate today:
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/f...ld.single.html

delves into the exclusive nature of LDS weddings.



The article also highlights a website working to ask LDS leadership to reconsider the policy of waiting a year between civil ceremonies & temple sealings (in the US).

http://familyfirstweddings.com/

I like this

Micah Nickolaisen, a professional photographer in the Phoenix area, has observed how painful these matters often are for young Mormon couples. Host of the LDS podcast Exploring Sainthood, he states in a recent episode, “If that pain is justified, if that’s what God wants, if there’s some doctrinal or theological reason that it has to be that way, then maybe that’s the price we have to pay, but it seems so pointless. What are we accomplishing except creating distance from us and the people we’re trying to influence and put on a good impression for?”

[The_Douger]

I don't know Mary Ellen Robertson, but she shouldn't assume people aren't sufficiently worthy to marry in the temple if they choose to marry first outside the temple. It's really quite unbecoming of her.

It just bugs me the amount of judginess that goes on in LDS circles. Some kid 2 doors down came home from his mission after a month. Everyone in my ward is talking about it. I have no idea why he came home. He is up at USU now. If people don't follow the norm, we just need to learn to go with it.

I like this

I do too. I also think they should be able to get married civilly and then in the temple later. Like later that day.

[Jeff Lebowski]

It just bugs me the amount of judginess that goes on in LDS circles. Some kid 2 doors down came home from his mission after a month. Everyone in my ward is talking about it. I have no idea why he came home. He is up at USU now. If people don't follow the norm, we just need to learn to go with it.



I do too. I also think they should be able to get married civilly and then in the temple later. Like later that day.

The funny thing is, if you take LDS theology at face value then it wouldn't matter one lick if someone got sealed a year after the wedding. If they were to die in the intervening year, you just do their work for them and everything is OK.

[SCcoug]

I don't know Mary Ellen Robertson, but she shouldn't assume people aren't sufficiently worthy to marry in the temple if they choose to marry first outside the temple. It's really quite unbecoming of her.

I think you need to read her quote again.

[smokymountainrain]

I think you need to read her quote again.

I'm pretty sure I read it right. She said:

“If you marry civilly first, the assumption is that you weren't sufficiently worthy to get married in the temple,” says Mary Ellen Robertson, executive director of the Sunstone Education Foundation, a nonprofit organization in Salt Lake City dedicated to the study of Mormonism.

I'm simply saying she shouldn't assume like that. Now, if by chance she is accusing other people of making those assumptions, I think it's a pathetic and judgmental comment on her part because the majority of people I know don't roll like that.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm pretty sure I read it right. She said:

I'm simply saying she shouldn't assume like that. Now, if by chance she is accusing other people of making those assumptions, I think it's a pathetic and judgmental comment on her part because the majority of people I know don't roll like that.

Oh brother.

[The_Tick]

SMR...

99% of the people I know think exactly like she does bro.

[SCcoug]

Try again and read the next part Solon quoted.

That’s one reason Robertson’s mother was horrified when Robertson and her fiancé inexplicably chose to marry outside the temple. “It was important to me and my fiancé, Mike, to have a wedding that all our friends, family members, and his children [from a previous marriage] could attend. I didn't want to start our marriage by shutting out so many loved ones from the celebration,” says Robertson. But it’s not the standard choice.

[Northwestcoug]

The funny thing is, if you take LDS theology at face value then it wouldn't matter one lick if someone got sealed a year after the wedding. If they were to die in the intervening year, you just do their work for them and everything is OK.

Which makes this from SWK so difficult to square with temple work:

A few years ago a young couple who lived in northern Utah came to Salt Lake City for their marriage. They did not want to bother with a temple marriage, or perhaps they did not feel worthy. At any rate, they had a civil marriage. After the marriage they got into their automobile and drove north to their home for a wedding reception. On their way home they had an accident, and when the wreckage was cleared, there was a dead man and a dead young woman. They had been married only an hour or two. Their marriage was ended. They thought they loved each other. They wanted to live together forever, but they did not live the commandments that would make that possible. So death came in and closed that career. They may have been good young people; I don’t know. But they will be angels in heaven if they are. They will not be gods and goddesses and priests and priestesses because they did not fulfill the commandments and do the things that were required at their hands.

“Sometimes we have people who say, ‘Oh, someday I will go to the temple. But I am not quite ready yet. And if I die, somebody can do the work for me in the temple.’ And that should be made very clear to all of us. The temples are for the living and for the dead only when the work could not have been done. Do you think that the Lord will be mocked and give to this young couple who ignored him, give them the blessings? The Lord said, ‘For all contracts that are not made unto this end have an end when men are dead.’ (D&C 132:7)”

[Jeff Lebowski]

Which makes this from SWK so difficult to square with temple work:

Sheesh. What is it that someone said recently? We LDS give lip service to the atonement but we don't really believe it.

[Northwestcoug]

Yeah, I can see how the whole concept of temple work flies in the face of grace and mercy. Is the atonement universal or not?

[Indy Coug]

Yeah, I can see how the whole concept of temple work flies in the face of grace and mercy. Is the atonement universal or not?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Yeah, I am not following that either.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

Which makes this from SWK so difficult to square with temple work:

I know someone who met the love of her life. They dated, courted, and became engaged to be married. He was killed in an accident two weeks before the wedding. She wants to be sealed to him for time and all eternity. The church won't let her.