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From the Church or the military? 
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Think of the words of President Spencer W. Kimball:
"Among the most common sexual sins our young commit are necking and petting. Not only do these improper relations often lead to fornication, pregnancy, and abortions—all ugly sins—but in and of themselves they are pernicious evils, and it is often difficult for youth to distinguish where one ends and another begins. . . . They are but parts of the whole family of related sins and indiscretions. . . .
"Too often, young people dismiss their petting with a shrug of their shoulders as a little indiscretion, while admitting that fornication is a base transgression. Too many of them are shocked, or feign &$91;pretend] to be, when told that what they have done in the name of petting was in reality fornication" ( The Miracle of Forgiveness, 65–66)."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --SolonComment
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This is the one I can't get my head around. "Sin next to murder" is, IMO, extreme in the first place but at least that has some scriptural support. Chastity being more important than life sounds like that awful rape quote that is to the effect that it is better to die than to give up your "virtue" willingly. No one really believes that, right?8 - To a Latter‑day Saint, chastity is more important than life itself. Chastity means complete sexual purity, freedom from all forms of sexual immorality, including masturbation, fornication, adultery, and homosexuality.
I will actually defend the "heritage of sexual sin" quote a little, however. I think what it means is, do you want your child to be the result of an adulterous union and come into the world under those difficult circumstances. That may not be the best way to put it, but it is a fair point.Comment
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I think the context includes if you don't marry the mother of your children, and don't have the opportunity to live with them on a daily basis. That is a huge burden to a child.Originally posted by UtahDan View PostComment
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Let me just throw out that the two most serious sins (allegedly) both deal with creation. Murder -- destroys creation. Sexual sin -- improper use of our creative powers.Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
Maybe sexual sin really is that serious in the eyes of God, but even if it isn't, I think it has symbolic importance.
$0.02 after 15 seconds of thought.Comment
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Stealing: takes creations from creation.Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
Masturbation: uses engine of creation to create a creation that is not used in creation.
jaywalking: increases potential of one creation running into another, or at least becoming annoyed. However, saves the time of a creation, possibly preventing tardiness by said creation.
Therefore, these should all be next to murder as well.Comment
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I am so screwed.
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I think you are onto something here.Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
There is only 1 concrete distinction that I can articulate between two unmarried sexual partners engaging in sex and two married sexual partners engaging in sex: we have been told not to engage if we are unmarried. Beyond that, I can't really see much difference.
The scriptures are basically silent as to the whys of these sexual laws, only to say that God forbids it.
How is a married couple on birth control using their procreative powers any differently than an unmarried couple on birth control? I would be interested in thoughts on that.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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I take it you didn't completely follow the brethern's adviceOriginally posted by Devildog View PostI am so screwed.
I may be small, but I'm slow.
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There is certainly support for this idea. It is just not what I believe.Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostComment
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Yeah... not so much.Originally posted by happyone View PostI take it you didn't completely follow the brethern's advice
My perceptions could be completely mistaken... but when I read stuff like this... it makes me realize how I will never fit in the "bubble".
I didn't then... and I don't want to now... and I don't think I ever will.
Doesn't leave much room for people outside of the "ideal".
I can always repent for the past... but I really can't see myself ever fitting into the LDS mold."We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
-Thucydides
"Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men."-Miyamoto Musashi
Si vis pacem, para bellum
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You know, and I am nto sure about this, but what if a goal of religion, any religion, really, is to intruct one on how to live a life. Maybe even give some rules to follow. And maybe, if they really go around the bend, try to encourage followers to follow those rules. I know it sounds crazy and out there, but I think I might be on to something here.PLesa excuse the tpyos.Comment
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FTR, I think items 1, 2 and 3 might be useful, if an enlistee wants to be known as a mormon. I think the rest are laughable at best, insulting at worstOriginally posted by Devildog View Post
By the way - i like your new avatarLast edited by happyone; 12-08-2010, 01:52 PM.
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A veteran - whether active duty, retired, or national guard or reserve is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to, "The United States of America ", for an amount of "up to and including my life - it's an honor."Comment
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The instruction and rule thing is OK. I'm mostly in compliance these days.Originally posted by creekster View Post
It is the culture thing that I struggle with."We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
-Thucydides
"Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men."-Miyamoto Musashi
Si vis pacem, para bellum
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