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  • statman
    Rabblerouser
    • Aug 2009
    • 2799

    #1

    Is this an LDS picture?



    I always thought so. Maybe not...

    I thought this one was too:

  • Surfah
    Where's Wallace?
    • Nov 2008
    • 33726

    #2
    Originally posted by statman View Post
    They are LDS paintings, in that the Church commissioned Harry Anderson to paint them about 50 years ago. However, Harry Anderson was not Mormon. He was actually 7th Day Adventist and rather devout. So much so that he refused to paint anything from the Book of Mormon and relating to the restoration. He would only do biblical paintings for the Church. However, he also painted them according to his own interpretation. For example, the Second Coming picture you referenced originally featured Christ with shorter hair and the angels had wings (Note also that Christ is wearing white). Anyway, since Anderson was not in Utah, the Church had their own LDS artist Grant Romney Clawson to paint over the angels wings and give Christ longer hair. Harry Anderson did a number of paintings for the Church including a mural for the Church at the World's Fair in 1964. This was Christ Ordaining the Apostles which you will recognize.
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    • pellegrino
      miserere me
      • Jan 2009
      • 12100

      #3
      Originally posted by Surfah View Post
      They are LDS paintings, in that the Church commissioned Harry Anderson to paint them about 50 years ago. However, Harry Anderson was not Mormon. He was actually 7th Day Adventist and rather devout. So much so that he refused to paint anything from the Book of Mormon and relating to the restoration. He would only do biblical paintings for the Church. However, he also painted them according to his own interpretation. For example, the Second Coming picture you referenced originally featured Christ with shorter hair and the angels had wings (Note also that Christ is wearing white). Anyway, since Anderson was not in Utah, the Church had their own LDS artist Grant Romney Clawson to paint over the angels wings and give Christ longer hair. Harry Anderson did a number of paintings for the Church including a mural for the Church at the World's Fair in 1964. This was Christ Ordaining the Apostles which you will recognize.
      I never knew you were an art historian.
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      • Indy Coug
        Heartless Bastard
        • Dec 2008
        • 18747

        #4
        Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
        I never knew you were an art historian.
        That was my wife's original major at BYU.
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        • Surfah
          Where's Wallace?
          • Nov 2008
          • 33726

          #5
          Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
          I never knew you were an art historian.
          I'm not really. Though once upon a time all I wanted to do to was be an artist and go to art school. I like to think I am talented. Now most of my work is on a magna doodle for my daughter or on the back of a sacrament program. I remember in Kindergarten my mom was the art teacher who would come once a week with big reproductions teaching our class about art.

          However, the Harry Anderson bit came because on my mission a companion told me about the angels wings. I always dismissed it as Mormon folklore. But after a bit of research I confirmed it was true. Susan Easton Black wrote a pretty good paper about many of the artists responsible for much of LDS art. It's on BYUStudies if you want to read it. Anderson used to get into it doctrinally with Hinckley.

          The same companion also claimed that in the Christ in Gethsemane painting by Anderson he painted an angel sustaining/supporting Christ in his agony but like the angels wings was edited out. That I have never been able to confirm but the brush strokes behind Christ kneeling certainly look like they could have covered something.
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          • Katy Lied
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 9435

            #6
            I didnt know the part about Grant Romney Clawson. Thanks, Surfah.

            Funny how we likes our heavenly men with long hair and our earthly men with short hair.

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            • Surfah
              Where's Wallace?
              • Nov 2008
              • 33726

              #7
              Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
              I didnt know the part about Grant Romney Clawson. Thanks, Surfah.

              Funny how we likes our heavenly men with long hair and our earthly men with short hair.
              I guess the haircut Anderson originally gave Jesus was described as Dutch boy.
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              • hostile
                lollygagger
                • Dec 2009
                • 5736

                #8
                Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                They are LDS paintings, in that the Church commissioned Harry Anderson to paint them about 50 years ago. However, Harry Anderson was not Mormon. He was actually 7th Day Adventist and rather devout. So much so that he refused to paint anything from the Book of Mormon and relating to the restoration. He would only do biblical paintings for the Church. However, he also painted them according to his own interpretation. For example, the Second Coming picture you referenced originally featured Christ with shorter hair and the angels had wings (Note also that Christ is wearing white). Anyway, since Anderson was not in Utah, the Church had their own LDS artist Grant Romney Clawson to paint over the angels wings and give Christ longer hair. Harry Anderson did a number of paintings for the Church including a mural for the Church at the World's Fair in 1964. This was Christ Ordaining the Apostles which you will recognize.
                I had heard that Anderson's original intent was to pain Christ in a crimson-colored robe, per his interpretation of the second coming. The crimson sash was a compromise between the artist and the Church. I suspect it would be difficult to paint over the crimson robe.
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                • Clark Addison
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10316

                  #9
                  Very interesting information. Thanks Surfah and others for sharing.

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                  • Commando
                    Explosivo
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 20748

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hostile View Post
                    I had heard that Anderson's original intent was to pain Christ in a crimson-colored robe, per his interpretation of the second coming. The crimson sash was a compromise between the artist and the Church. I suspect it would be difficult to paint over the crimson robe.
                    Now that would have been an LDS interpretation that the church wouldn't have argued with. The crimson sash would still be a compromise.
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                    • Donuthole
                      Official Outgayer
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 25278

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                      I never knew you were an art historian.
                      He's not. But don't eff with [him] and Google.
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                      • Surfah
                        Where's Wallace?
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 33726

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                        I actually didn't need Google for this. But I did for this.
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