Some words are substitute swear words.

[grapevine]

SP said we don't say Piss, crap or freakin because they mean something esle. He actually used those words. Quoting strength of youth. Uses it in our meetings.

Than told of people being blessed for taking off ear rings and shaving facial hair looking like brethern. In temple recomment interviews he encouraged them. There are blessings for obedience.

Facial hair and extra earrings do not keep you out of the temple. though I think there are blessings for obedience when local leaders ask you to obey. That was what Davids talk was a few years ago at BYU.

You can't have facial hair as a missionary or Ordinance worker in the temple. I have seen High Councilman and Bishopric members be cleanshaven when they received those callings. Though some let it grow back after a release.

YOu can have mustaches at a CES school. People know before they go there they can't have some facial hair. There still is facial hair. People probably are blessed though for being obedient to little things.

Heard if people don't obey little things won't obey big things.

[Jacob]

Yesterday Bishop said god has unconditional love. Russel says no. Then said god blessed us by making our ward grow. New subdivision in Layton should be no surprise. No facial hair on bishop, but bad haircut. Kids too. Bet mom cuts hair and homeschools.

I didn't wear a tie and didn't hear anything. Seminary teachers and missionaries required to wear ties. I have seen islanders wear skirts and pass sacrament. Not in US. Local customs are important. That was what Boyd's walk was a few years ago at BYU.

Heard if people don't obey little things they're more comfortable.

[woot]

Cat same color as my beard. Shaved my cat.

Rudolf had a shiny nose. No facial hair not sure about earrings. Probably blessed though. Got off isle of misfit toys.

[Non Sequitur]

I'm still trying to figure out what piss is a substitute for.

[TheBYUGuy]

Dad had mustache in bishopric because mom told him would divorce if shaved. Mom died but dad still had mustache in bishopric. Then on high counsel but shaved it so maybe bishops are worthy of mustache but not HC.

Two differnt SPS though. One with mustache was also MP. Probably not doctrine since Brigham Lorenzo and other GA"s had beards. Maybe like polygamy.

[Babs]

I'm still trying to figure out what piss is a substitute for.

the other four letter word you off.

[Babs]

Cat same color as my beard. Shaved my cat.

Rudolf had a shiny nose. No facial hair not sure about earrings. Probably blessed though. Got off isle of misfit toys.

This is actually pretty good.

[NorthwestUteFan]

SP said we don't say Piss, crap or freakin because they mean something esle. He actually used those words. Quoting strength of youth. Uses it in our meetings.

This is interesting, because it is in line with my beliefs. I go as far as I can to avoid even using the 'fake' swear words and I also try to keep my kids from using them. When I was a Young Men's leader I also worked with the kids to keep their language clean, and I tried to instill in them the power of words and that refraining from using certain words is good for the psyche/spirit/clarity of mind/whatever you want to call it.

Granted, I am a 'wear a sweater to church so I don't have to wear a tie and just be happy I shaved today (because the epic battle to get my kids dressed killed all the remaining joy in my life)' kind of person. I am not a strictly orthodox churchgoer, but I do try to be a good example.

But simply substituting 'fake' swear words for 'real' swear words doesn't completely strip the original intent or purpose of using the harsher word, despite its absence. The harsher word is still 'understood' to be present.

I feel better about myself when I keep my language clean. People around me certainly feel more respected as well. After all it is a respect thing, isn't it?

Or am I just crazy?


(On the other hand, a good friend was a missionary in Australia and routinely hear the phrase, "...dammit to hell!!" IN CHURCH, from the pulpit, out of the mouths of bishops, etc., and not in the middle of some fire and brimstone sermon. It was simply a commonly accepted phrase.)

[Colly Wolly]

Has anybody on this board met grape in real life? What's he like?

[Babs]

Has anybody on this board met grape in real life? What's he like?

I thought Goatnap or one of the guys from potatoland had.

[Uncle Ted]

Has anybody on this board met grape in real life? What's he like?

While I haven't met grape in person I grew up not far from where I believe he is located. Hell Heck Frak*, we might even be related.

*"Frak" can't be a swear word because they use it on Battlestar Galactica, right?

[old_gregg]

I thought Goatnap or one of the guys from potatoland had.

isn't rc in that neck o the woods?

[marsupial]

When our oldest was about 3 and didn't know any "bad" words (like the bad words he uses now, idiot, jerk, stupid, etc.) he would come up with some pretty creative insults for us when he was mad. For example: "I WANT TO FLUSH YOU DOWN THE TOILET!"

Or: "I WANT TO DIG A HOLE AND PUT YOU IN IT!"

It was hard to keep a straight face when he was yelling that kind of stuff at us.

Sadly, our 2-year-old does not have to be so creative. His big bro and sis have taught him well and I regularly hear from the sweetest little mouth, "Shut up, you doopid idiot!"

[byu71]

I think the clean shaven policy is a great idea. It is so hard to really to know who is really righteous and who isn't. I like these simple type things that let you know about a person the minute you meet them.

[SuperGabers]

Yesterday Bishop said god has unconditional love. Russel says no. Then said god blessed us by making our ward grow. New subdivision in Layton should be no surprise. No facial hair on bishop, but bad haircut. Kids too. Bet mom cuts hair and homeschools.

I didn't wear a tie and didn't hear anything. Seminary teachers and missionaries required to wear ties. I have seen islanders wear skirts and pass sacrament. Not in US. Local customs are important. That was what Boyd's walk was a few years ago at BYU.

Heard if people don't obey little things they're more comfortable.

I just spit my drink out on my computer screen. LMAO!