Circumcision: relic of barbarism? Cruel? Commandment? Hygiene? Buzz kill? Thoughts?
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Both of my grandfathers were circumcised after ALL the plumbing worked. They reported no difference in function.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostCircumcision: relic of barbarism? Cruel? Commandment? Hygiene? Buzz kill? Thoughts?"Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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Why would they subject themselves to mutilation?Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostBoth of my grandfathers were circumcised after ALL the plumbing worked. They reported no difference in function.What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
-Teenage Dirtbag
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Done by tradition and for aesthetic reasons mostly. Sure it leads to less HIV transmission in Africa and fewer cases of penile cancer, but we don't live in Africa and penile cancer is rare. Phimosis is a bitch but can be prevented with good hygiene.
I think it is kind of dumb. To me it is somewhere between piercing a newborn girl's ears or giving that newborn girl a prophylactic mastectomy.
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Two different medical issues.Originally posted by marsupial View PostWhy would they subject themselves to mutilation?"Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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I don't care how rare penile cancer is as this is something I'd take great pains to avoid completely. Even if it meant going from 0.01% to 0.0000001% the peace of mind would be worth it.Originally posted by Slim View PostDone by tradition and for aesthetic reasons mostly. Sure it leads to less HIV transmission in Africa and fewer cases of penile cancer, but we don't live in Africa and penile cancer is rare. Phimosis is a bitch but can be prevented with good hygiene.
I think it is kind of dumb. To me it is somewhere between piercing a newborn girl's ears or giving that newborn girl a prophylactic mastectomy."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Well, prostate cancer is much more common. Perhaps you should get your prostate removed just in case... Maybe a preemptive mastectomy for your wife too, while you're at it.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View PostI don't care how rare penile cancer is as this is something I'd take great pains to avoid completely. Even if it meant going from 0.01% to 0.0000001% the peace of mind would be worth it.What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
-Teenage Dirtbag
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Circucision may be the pointless and costly religious practice that is hardest to discard.
By the way, not only is penile cancer rare, there has been no causal link established. Utah has an unusually high rate of prostate cancer, particularly among LDS. Does abstinance from sex cause that? Maybe circumcision does.
Last edited by SeattleUte; 10-31-2010, 08:11 PM.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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Totally useless in the US. I perform lots of them, however, because the parents still want them despite my best efforts. Count my own wife as one of those."Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"
"So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"
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I'm telling you, if women were down with anteaters men wouldn't get them. I was being serious in my response to Marsupial. The husband of the couple that introduced me to Gidget is a urologist and he has performed many circumcisions on adult males. And the overwhelming reason for all of these he has said is because of women.Originally posted by doctorcoug View PostTotally useless in the US. I perform lots of them, however, because the parents still want them despite my best efforts. Count my own wife as one of those."Nobody listens to Turtle."-Turtlesigpic
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I don't know from experience, but I have heard anteaters add a little extra pleasure for the woman. My dad told me that his brother went helmethead later in life and his wife was very open about missing his anteater.Originally posted by Surfah View PostI'm telling you, if women were down with anteaters men wouldn't get them. I was being serious in my response to Marsupial. The husband of the couple that introduced me to Gidget is a urologist and he has performed many circumcisions on adult males. And the overwhelming reason for all of these he has said is because of women.What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
-Teenage Dirtbag
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Maybe if get up the courage, I'll ask a friend of mine. I know her husband is intact (because he is one of our closest friends and is European. I consulted him before deciding not to circumcise our oldest), but my guess is that her Utah-raised ex-husband is circumcised. I'm curious which one is better.
What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
-Teenage Dirtbag
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