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  • SeattleUte
    Faith crisis consultant
    • Nov 2008
    • 20837

    #1

    Foreskin problem

    Circumcision: relic of barbarism? Cruel? Commandment? Hygiene? Buzz kill? Thoughts?
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

    --Jonathan Swift
  • wuapinmon
    Soul Plumber
    • Dec 2008
    • 30711

    #2
    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Circumcision: relic of barbarism? Cruel? Commandment? Hygiene? Buzz kill? Thoughts?
    Both of my grandfathers were circumcised after ALL the plumbing worked. They reported no difference in function.
    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • marsupial
      Mississippi Queen
      • Nov 2008
      • 3678

      #3
      Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
      Both of my grandfathers were circumcised after ALL the plumbing worked. They reported no difference in function.
      Why would they subject themselves to mutilation?
      What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
      -Teenage Dirtbag

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      • Slim
        Straight Out the Trailer
        • Jul 2009
        • 1007

        #4
        Done by tradition and for aesthetic reasons mostly. Sure it leads to less HIV transmission in Africa and fewer cases of penile cancer, but we don't live in Africa and penile cancer is rare. Phimosis is a bitch but can be prevented with good hygiene.

        I think it is kind of dumb. To me it is somewhere between piercing a newborn girl's ears or giving that newborn girl a prophylactic mastectomy.

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        • Surfah
          Where's Wallace?
          • Nov 2008
          • 33726

          #5
          Originally posted by marsupial View Post
          Why would they subject themselves to mutilation?
          Women.
          "Nobody listens to Turtle."
          -Turtle
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          • Danimal
            Junior Member
            • May 2009
            • 387

            #6
            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
            Circumcision: relic of barbarism? Cruel? Commandment? Hygiene? Buzz kill? Thoughts?
            I'm generally against genital mutilation.

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            • wuapinmon
              Soul Plumber
              • Dec 2008
              • 30711

              #7
              Originally posted by marsupial View Post
              Why would they subject themselves to mutilation?
              Two different medical issues.
              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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              • Moliere
                One man.....one pie
                • Oct 2009
                • 27819

                #8
                Originally posted by Slim View Post
                Done by tradition and for aesthetic reasons mostly. Sure it leads to less HIV transmission in Africa and fewer cases of penile cancer, but we don't live in Africa and penile cancer is rare. Phimosis is a bitch but can be prevented with good hygiene.

                I think it is kind of dumb. To me it is somewhere between piercing a newborn girl's ears or giving that newborn girl a prophylactic mastectomy.
                I don't care how rare penile cancer is as this is something I'd take great pains to avoid completely. Even if it meant going from 0.01% to 0.0000001% the peace of mind would be worth it.
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • marsupial
                  Mississippi Queen
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 3678

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
                  I don't care how rare penile cancer is as this is something I'd take great pains to avoid completely. Even if it meant going from 0.01% to 0.0000001% the peace of mind would be worth it.
                  Well, prostate cancer is much more common. Perhaps you should get your prostate removed just in case... Maybe a preemptive mastectomy for your wife too, while you're at it.
                  What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
                  -Teenage Dirtbag

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                  • Shaka
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 10438

                    #10
                    That's it! I'm getting my foreskin put back on!

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                    • SeattleUte
                      Faith crisis consultant
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 20837

                      #11
                      Circucision may be the pointless and costly religious practice that is hardest to discard.

                      By the way, not only is penile cancer rare, there has been no causal link established. Utah has an unusually high rate of prostate cancer, particularly among LDS. Does abstinance from sex cause that? Maybe circumcision does.

                      This study assesses whether comparatively high prostate cancer incidence rates among white men in Utah represent higher rates among members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS or Mormons), who comprise about 70% of the state's ...
                      Last edited by SeattleUte; 10-31-2010, 08:11 PM.
                      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                      --Jonathan Swift

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                      • doctorcoug
                        To Win is to Honor Him
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 2273

                        #12
                        Totally useless in the US. I perform lots of them, however, because the parents still want them despite my best efforts. Count my own wife as one of those.
                        "Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"

                        "So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"

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                        • Surfah
                          Where's Wallace?
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 33726

                          #13
                          Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
                          Totally useless in the US. I perform lots of them, however, because the parents still want them despite my best efforts. Count my own wife as one of those.
                          I'm telling you, if women were down with anteaters men wouldn't get them. I was being serious in my response to Marsupial. The husband of the couple that introduced me to Gidget is a urologist and he has performed many circumcisions on adult males. And the overwhelming reason for all of these he has said is because of women.
                          "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                          -Turtle
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                          • marsupial
                            Mississippi Queen
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 3678

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                            I'm telling you, if women were down with anteaters men wouldn't get them. I was being serious in my response to Marsupial. The husband of the couple that introduced me to Gidget is a urologist and he has performed many circumcisions on adult males. And the overwhelming reason for all of these he has said is because of women.
                            I don't know from experience, but I have heard anteaters add a little extra pleasure for the woman. My dad told me that his brother went helmethead later in life and his wife was very open about missing his anteater.
                            What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
                            -Teenage Dirtbag

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                            • marsupial
                              Mississippi Queen
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 3678

                              #15
                              Maybe if get up the courage, I'll ask a friend of mine. I know her husband is intact (because he is one of our closest friends and is European. I consulted him before deciding not to circumcise our oldest), but my guess is that her Utah-raised ex-husband is circumcised. I'm curious which one is better.
                              What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
                              -Teenage Dirtbag

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