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    Do we have to take the Sacrament with the right hand? Heard that was bs.

    What about this one. You are to take the closest piece to you. I heard that somewere. Another one true or false it has to be bread and water? I have heard people saying we need white bread for the sacrament. Some even going so far as taking the crust off.

    I have heard of people sneaking sevenup or sprite in Sacrament cups to see who gets it. And make sure Bishop didn't see them. Thing is I never notice the taste of the bread or water or pay attention. If people pay too much attention to formalities such as color of bread, what hand to take it with, Or what piece to take will forget the purpose of the sacrament.

    Heard also it has to be word for word perfect. Heard of people being challenged to memorize and give the prayer from memory. Can lead to repeated giving of prayer. However to avoid undue embarrasment I think bishops are counseled to let some things go as Lord will recognize prayer.

    Symbolism is what sacrament is. If people get too carried away would defeat purpose I think.

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    I believe the right hand thing is the correct way; heard it many times.

    I remember as a kid traveling to Idaho and attending Sac Mtg. They had some crazy passing method that involved taking the tray, passing it to the person next to you who then held it while you partook. Then they passed to the person next to them who held it for them while they partook. Very strange, and it causes me a lot of anxiety as I watched this going on in the rows ahead of me and my family. How were we as visitors going to manage this new, complicated passing/partaking method? Even more anxiety came when my mother totally blew off the local method and partook straight from the person next to her who was fully expecting my mother to hold the tray while she partook. Arrgghhhh! I don't know how I managed to get through that meeting.

    Idaho Mormons; think they're a bunch of sophisticates with their fancy Sacrament passing procedures.
    Last edited by myboynoah; 10-25-2010, 09:52 PM.
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    • #3
      It's dumb that we insist on the prayer being word for word, even if it means embarrassing some poor nervous kid in front of hundreds of people...yet we use water instead of wine. Jesus Christ used WINE. That's a fact.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ian Anderson's Flute View Post
        It's dumb that we insist on the prayer being word for word, even if it means embarrassing some poor nervous kid in front of hundreds of people...yet we use water instead of wine. Jesus Christ used WINE. That's a fact.
        Hell, we used wine up until 1906ish.

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        • #5
          I think it should be customary for the young men to take the sacrament with their left hand, up until they are married. Just my opinion.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
            I believe the right hand thing is the correct way; heard it many times.

            I remember as a kid traveling to Idaho and attending Sac Mtg. They had some crazy passing method that involved taking the tray, passing it to the person next to you who then held it while you partook. Then they passed to the person next to them who held it for them while they partook. Very strange, and it causes me a lot of anxiety as I watched this going on in the rows ahead of me and my family. How were we as visitors going to manage this new, complicated passing/partaking method? Even more anxiety came when my mother totally blew off the local method and partook straight from the person next to her who was fully expecting my mother to hold the tray while she partook. Arrgghhhh! I don't know how I managed to get through that meeting.

            Idaho Mormons; think they're a bunch of sophisticates with their fancy Sacrament passing procedures.
            In my wife's home wards, the deacons actually walk the sacrament back and forth thru all the rows. No unordained hand passes the tray...

            And they've done it that way for 25+ years...

            Crazy freakin' Germans!

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            • #7
              There is nothing in the CHOI about right vs left hand. That is folklore that was probably expressed as an opinion but rose to doctrinal status. It doesn't matter and has no effect on the validity of the ordinance.

              As for the bread itself, you better dang well believe that I care about it. There is nothing worse than getting a piece of disgusting, freezer burned old bread. Bad sacrament bread is nasty. People that are thoughtless enough to knowingly bring old bread for the sacrament should be burned at the stake. Or, in the absence of a stake, then burned at the stake center, or at a stake dance. Either way, a stake should be involved.

              Conversely, is there anything lovelier than nibbling on a tasty, soft chewy piece of fresh sacrament bread on a fast Sunday? I wish the church would require sacrament to be passed using only Grandma sycamores bread. I would much rather that be doctrine than the right hand thing.

              I have been known to "accidentally" grab a clump of multiple pieces of bread on Fast Sunday.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ian Anderson's Flute View Post
                It's dumb that we insist on the prayer being word for word, even if it means embarrassing some poor nervous kid in front of hundreds of people...yet we use water instead of wine. Jesus Christ used WINE. That's a fact.
                Wine? Really? No way, man.

                Here is something else I learned recently: Led Zeppelin used to tour with Jethro Tull and they weren't too impressed with the dude with the flute and leotards.

                "If all that snow were cocaine, Jethro Tull could do a winter season here". - Robert Plant, looking out a plane window after taking off from Canada in the early days of Zeppelin.
                "Ian (Anderson) is a pain in the ass. We toured with `Jethro Dull' once and I think he probably spoke three words to Jimmy or I at any one time... (Page) had a title for a live album when Jethro was playing in LA, `Bore 'Em At The Forum.' " - John Paul Jones, _Guitar_World_.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                  ... I wish the church would require sacrament to be passed using only Grandma sycamores bread...
                  lol - this one came up just the other day. For a variety of factors, my sons have been responsible to bring the bread to church for about the last 5.5 years running (our oldest turned 14 about 5.5 years ago).

                  Saturday Costco runs are almost a religious observance at our house. And Grandma Sycamores for sacrament bread is a part of it. This saturday I somehow forgot it, and after the football game, I sent my 17 yo son to Smiths to get a loaf of bread and gas. I gave him $22 - $20 to fill up my gas tank, and $2 for a loaf of their cheapest bread - they've always got some brand on sale for $1.50.

                  All I got back from the little wisea$$ was - "Cheap no-name Smith's bread? Really? Jesus deserves better..."

                  He's right. I told the little snot to pay the extra himself...

                  Grandma Sycamores it was.

                  The ward is going to miss our bread when there's actually a teacher in our ward. The next kid who turns 14 is from kind of a crunchy family. He'll probably bring nasty, crumbly home-made whole wheat. THEN they'll know how good they had it when we brought the bread!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                    There is nothing in the CHOI about right vs left hand.
                    Just wait - new CHOI comes out in t-minus 19 (?) days. Expect the 'right-hand-rule' to be a headliner...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      Wine? Really? No way, man.

                      Here is something else I learned recently: Led Zeppelin used to tour with Jethro Tull and they weren't too impressed with the dude with the flute and leotards.
                      As I recall, Ian Anderson is now a fish farmer somewhere in the UK. Odd dude. thick as a brick, as it were.
                      PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by creekster View Post
                        As I recall, Ian Anderson is now a fish farmer somewhere in the UK. Odd dude. thick as a brick, as it were.
                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                          Wow. What a goober.
                          PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                          • #14
                            This is now

                            PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                              I believe the right hand thing is the correct way; heard it many times.
                              yeah right; anti-gay symbolism is what this is.

                              http://www.psychologytoday.com/artic...sexuality-hand
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