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  • Soccermom
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 4063

    #1

    Is it a church wide policy or rule that

    whenever anything takes place at the church two priesthood holders must be present? If so, what is the reasoning?

    I know some women in our RS are doing a huge craft day next week and they had to get priesthood holders to go sit at the church for the time they are there. If I want to do Cub Scouts at the church, I need two priesthood holders there. We do Day Camp for Cub Scouts and hold part of it at the LDS church, but it is with all the cub scout groups, LDS and non-LDS alike, and we have to have priesthood holders at the church for that as well.

    Is there a doctrinal reason this practice is required? Or is it a stake/ward level discretion type thing?
  • Jeff Lebowski
    Corporate lackey for Jesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 69561

    #2
    Never heard of such a thing.
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    • creekster
      It is NOT a monkey!
      • Nov 2008
      • 22661

      #3
      STake ward thing. Our ward has a long standing policy of tryuing to have at least one man around for youth or RS activities, but it si not required.
      PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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      • ewth8tr
        Reverend of Irreverence
        • Nov 2008
        • 2347

        #4
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        Never heard of such a thing.
        I haven't heard of it either, it must be a non-Utah Mormon thing.
        "I don't mind giving the church 10% of my earnings, but 50% of my weekend mornings? Not as long as DirecTV NFL Sunday Ticket is around." - Daniel Tosh

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        • Art Vandelay
          Striving for mediocrity
          • Jul 2009
          • 10516

          #5
          In all honesty I think it's a Mad Men era woman need protectin thing. Some stakes are more vigilant about than others.

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          • creekster
            It is NOT a monkey!
            • Nov 2008
            • 22661

            #6
            Ours came about, as I understand it, as a result of mad (homeless) men living in the bushes on the perimeter of our parking lot and every now and then acting a little crazy or trying to access the bathrooms or something like that.
            PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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            • Soccermom
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 4063

              #7
              Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
              In all honesty I think it's a Mad Men era woman need protectin thing. Some stakes are more vigilant about than others.
              Ugh. I think you are probably right. It is just frustrating because not needing priesthood leaders at the church would make my life so much less complicated. Finding an acceptable time/location for my Bear den is next to impossible given my schedule, my kid's schedules, and those in my ward who complain about driving all the way out to my house for den meetings.

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              • Moliere
                One man.....one pie
                • Oct 2009
                • 27822

                #8
                I believe it is suggested in the handbook that a PH holder be present but I think I is merely for security/protection reasons. As I think it is a suggestion, it doesn't necessarily have to be followed. Our cub scouts meet at the church without PH holders present, however they do keep the chirch doors locked during the meeting.
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • LA Ute
                  Receiver of Memory
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19512

                  #9
                  It's just for security in our stake. Not mandatory, just strongly suggested. As in creekster's stake, homeless folks in some of our areas have figured out they can live in or around our buildings because no one is there during the weekdays, and some of them have made threats.
                  Last edited by LA Ute; 10-22-2010, 07:29 PM.
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                  • pellegrino
                    miserere me
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 12100

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
                    In all honesty I think it's a Mad Men era woman need protectin thing. Some stakes are more vigilant about than others.
                    once again, Vandelay hits the bulls-eye.
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                    • wuapinmon
                      Soul Plumber
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 30711

                      #11
                      Our early morning seminary has a "trustee" who sits outside in his car.
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                      The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                      • Uncle Ted
                        The Big 12 money shot.
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 28853

                        #12
                        In our stake if a man is called to teach primary then there must be another adult person in the classroom but this is not the case for women. It seems that mostly women teach primary in our ward now.
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                        • SuperGabers
                          aka... UtahDan's Wifey
                          • May 2009
                          • 2182

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
                          In all honesty I think it's a Mad Men era woman need protectin thing. Some stakes are more vigilant about than others.
                          Honestly, ya'll... Wouldn't the wrath of a group of RS sisters scare you more than two men?

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