I learned in church today

[old_gregg]

not sure what her preferred penn and teller move is, but the quality of her fake has me suspecting she’s an expert

[cougjunkie]

What's her preferred method of deception? Throwing it over her shoulder? Dropping it in her lap?

If you don't fake mouth to shirt pocket you clearly were never on church discipline as a youth. Doesn't work as well for the water, but for the bread it was easy. Didn't matter if your parents sat right next to you or not.

[falafel]

my celiac wife just pretends to take it. don’t want to be the nerds complaining to the bishop about sac bread.

What's her preferred method of deception? Throwing it over her shoulder? Dropping it in her lap?

[smokymountainrain]

my celiac wife just pretends to take it. don’t want to be the nerds complaining to the bishop about sac bread.

i hope she fake chews it up too.

[old_gregg]

my celiac wife just pretends to take it. don’t want to be the nerds complaining to the bishop about sac bread.

[Surfah]

We have a few people with true celiac disease plus who knows how many with gluten sensitivity. One of those with celiac disease would bring his own bread for the priests to bless. He and his family always sit in the same seats so it is easy to know which tray to place the gluten free bread.

Eventually we went with putting gluten free bread on every tray in a separate fry-sauce sized cup.

We have one family with a daughter who is a celiac. They bring their own piece of gluten free bread which stays in a Ziploc baggie which the deacons pass to them on their own tray. Every other tray gets regular bread and a rice cake for the self diagnosed folks.

[Katy Lied]

::glumly:: we are one of those wards who just gives everyone gluten free bread. It's like bread gum- super chewy and super tasteless. Thanks a lot, pseudo celiactors. The one time a week I can eat bread carbs and I gotta eat this kind.

I think they just dont want to call them sacramental crackers. Too catholic.

[Pelado]

When we first moved into this ward around 12 years ago, we met a member who was gluten intolerant or celiac or something. I had never heard of it before that time. I've never noticed any special/separate breads passed around on the tray(s) during the Sacrament. Our ward is probably just hostile to the celiac and gluten-intolerant members. Maybe that's why he moved.

[Scott R Nelson]

Eventually we went with putting gluten free bread on every tray in a separate fry-sauce sized cup.

That sounds like the best solution of all.

[hostile]

We have a few people with true celiac disease plus who knows how many with gluten sensitivity. One of those with celiac disease would bring his own bread for the priests to bless. He and his family always sit in the same seats so it is easy to know which tray to place the gluten free bread.

Eventually we went with putting gluten free bread on every tray in a separate fry-sauce sized cup.

[bluegoose]

We have a few people in our ward with Celiacs or gluten intolerance. Our solution for the sacrament was been to include a small cup of rice chex in every tray for those people.

I guess direction has come to no longer do that. The reason: it doesn’t fit with the symbolism of the bread being broken. I understand the sacrament is all about symbolism, but that seems pretty nitpicky to me. We aren’t sure how to handle the issue now a separate tray with oatbread is possible, but then a deacon would have to be dedicated to knowing and finding those who need it.

I just scrolled through the official communication library back to 2012 and didn't see anything about it. Unless maybe it was buried in one of those updates about the triple combination now being made available in Serbian or Afrikaans. I doubt anyone has actually ever read those updates.

[Surfah]

We use rice cakes. Also GTFO with your gluten sensitivity.

[smokymountainrain]

Still had the rice chex in my ward today.

sounds like a crazy SP thing, not a church wide thing.

[Bo Diddley]

We used to use Rice Chex too and got the same direction from our Stake President - needed to use bread that could be broken for the symbolism of the ordinance. He said it came from the First Presidency.

We've taken the approach of using the same little cups we used to use with Rice Checks on 2-3 trays. The first week our Bishop brought gluten free. One of the guys in our ward had a reaction - because I guess he's got issues with milk and egg products too. So now he brings a piece of bread from home each week that the YM break and put into those cups. They do it when setting up the table because they don't want to mix crumbs from one kind of bread with the other. So it actually doesn't get broken with the rest.

There's a couple of wards in our stake who decided to just use gluten free for the whole ward. The Bishop of one of the wards just shrugged and said they put $300 in their budget into gluten free bread for the Sacrament. We went to a missionary farewell today, and they used it for everyone as well.

The thing that's nuts to me is people thinking their only access to the Atonement is by partaking both the bread and water. Aren't some people actually allergic to water? The ritual of the Sacrament is rich in symbolism, which helps us to think about the Atonement. But the preparation throughout the week is what is key. You can't just show up once a week like the Zoramites and never talk of God again until the next week.

Just take the water (unless you're allergic) and call it good.

[chrisrenrut]

if you’re in the stake i think you’re in (c south?) that does not surprise me at all

Yep, right stake. Our new SP is actually a really good guy, but he is new so he is pretty letter-of-the-law right now. Hopefully he’ll mello a bit with time and experience.

But if Eddie’s stake has the same thing (and I think he is a Davis County guy) then it is probably being emphasized by the area or regional presidency (the mid-level leadership I was referring to in the OP).

We are ok with the symbology change from wine to water. Wine was a big deal to Jesus. His first miracle was changing water to wine miracle, he gave multiple parables of vineyards, Jesus said he is the vine, and he would not drink of the fruit of the vine afterwards the first supper. And we don’t drink out of the same cup, or use unleavened bread. It’s seems arbitrary where they draw the lines on these things.