Orson Scott Card: Nothing to fear from the truth

[statman]

He condemns the sources because their answers aren't in line with the Church's, not on the merits of their arguments.

You don't even know what he's talking about. He didn't say specifically, so you have absolutely no idea what he is or isn't condemning. You're letting hubris get in the way of any valid argument you could be making at this point...

[Katy Lied]

South Carolina teacher suspended for reading Ender's Game to 14 year olds.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain...hool-students/

In South Carolina a teacher has been placed on administrative leave for reading excerpts of Orson Scott Card’s science fiction classic Ender’s Game to his middle school students.
“The parent that reported him to the school district complained that the book was pornographic,” Tod Kelly writes. “[T]hat same parent also asked the local police to file criminal charges against the teacher. As of today, the police have not yet decided whether or not to file charges (which is probably a good sign that they won’t). The school district, however, appears to agree with the parent, is considering firing the teacher and will be eliminating the book from the school.

What the heck is pornographic about this book?

[Flystripper]

South Carolina teacher suspended for reading Ender's Game to 14 year olds.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain...hool-students/



What the heck is pornographic about this book?

lol ummm nothing.

My 11 year old read both Ender's Game and Enders Shadow for his outside reading lexile tests given at his school.

[Tim]

One of my buddies here in NC is in a book club with OSC -- says he's weird.

Just thought I'd share that.

[Moliere]

South Carolina teacher suspended for reading Ender's Game to 14 year olds.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain...hool-students/



What the heck is pornographic about this book?

When Ender beats up the kid in the shower

[Indy Coug]

One of my buddies here in NC is in a book club with OSC -- says he's weird.

Just thought I'd share that.

So he'd be a perfect fit for CUF.

[Green Monstah]

Honestly, I stopped at the word "traitors". Apologetics 101: Demonize someone who thinks differently than you.

I'm sure I'll pick this up in a few minutes, but that irritates the hell out of me.

[lambdacoug]

Here's the column. It should be a catalyst for some interesting discussion. A couple of excerpts:



It's a good, candid read, and I think is a fine statement of the way many thoughtful believers look at Church history.

If you have to state that you have nothing to fear from some thing, that's a pretty strong statement that there is fear of that thing. Religion in general, and mormonism in particular, have much to fear of truth.

I truly hope more mormons are urged to have less fear of learning all there is to learn of mormonism. It is the fastest way to become an apostate, or as OSC calls us "traitors". The fear of learning the truth and what it might mean kept me in the church for years.

[UtahDan]

One of my buddies here in NC is in a book club with OSC -- says he's weird.

Just thought I'd share that.

Normally I would being calling on wuap to defend the honor of South Carolina, but Card is such a doofus that this is actually sort of fun.

[snowcat]

South Carolina teacher suspended for reading Ender's Game to 14 year olds.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain...hool-students/



What the heck is pornographic about this book?

Doug Wright had OSC on his program today to discuss this. OSC mentioned that there appears to have been other things the teacher has read to the class that may not have been appropriate for the age, so he stopped short of defending the teacher.

He essentially said that Ender's Game is on Evangelical hit lists because he is a Mormon author.

[UtahDan]

Doug Wright had OSC on his program today to discuss this. OSC mentioned that there appears to have been other things the teacher has read to the class that may not have been appropriate for the age, so he stopped short of defending the teacher.

He essentially said that Ender's Game is on Evangelical hit lists because he is a Mormon author.

At the end of the day this will sell him more books, I bet.

[Katy Lied]

I truly hope more mormons are urged to have less fear of learning all there is to learn of mormonism. It is the fastest way to become an apostate, or as OSC calls us "traitors".

You don't find this terribly arrogant? "If you folks knew what I know, you'd be an atheist, like I am. "

[UtahDan]

You don't find this terribly arrogant? "If you folks knew what I know, you'd be an atheist, like I am. "

Don't be so hard on him, he is still a coug. That is sort of atheist-lite if you asked me.

[BigPiney]

What the heck is pornographic about this book?

Absolutely nothing. It is great book, I highly recommend it. My son read it when he was 9 and loved it.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Don't be so hard on him, he is still a coug. That is sort of atheist-lite if you asked me.

You don't find this terribly arrogant? "If you folks knew what I know, you'd be a Ute fan, like I am. "