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  • Originally posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
    Sure, but that's small potatoes. In editions of the Book of Mormon between about the 1880s and 1920 (I'd have to look up the exact years) there were footnotes, authored by Orson Pratt, that gave actual locations of Nephite cities and whatnot.
    Some large, more modern potatoes...

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    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
      So does this signal a permanent shift in church teaching? Decades ago the church was preaching the BoM lands were in MesoAmerica...even going to the length of producing that Evidences of the BoM video or whatever it was called that all the old people on this board showed on their missions. Heck, we even called the people in South America lamanites...which I guess you could still claim they could have had some intermingling with the heartland people.

      At what point do the BoM tour guides to Mexico and Honduras stop claiming to be showing people the ancient lands of the BoM?
      I'll bet they deliberately tried to make it look like it takes place in Nowhere, Western Hemisphere.

      The ability to suggest an actual model for Book of Mormon geography would suggest a level of sophistication and appreciation of intellectual nuance that elude the folks who make LDS movies - at least, judging by past efforts.

      I do, however, wholeheartedly endorse the video Spiritual Crocodiles. It's a superb work of spiritual terrorism.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnPfO13XONM
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      • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
        So does this signal a permanent shift in church teaching? Decades ago the church was preaching the BoM lands were in MesoAmerica...even going to the length of producing that Evidences of the BoM video or whatever it was called that all the old people on this board showed on their missions. Heck, we even called the people in South America lamanites...which I guess you could still claim they could have had some intermingling with the heartland people.

        At what point do the BoM tour guides to Mexico and Honduras stop claiming to be showing people the ancient lands of the BoM?
        Judging from the tour my uncle took his 7 adult kids on a couple of years ago, I don't think that's going away anytime soon.
        "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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        • I've been out of it. Did this video come out? Is it available online?

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          • Originally posted by jay santos View Post
            I've been out of it. Did this video come out? Is it available online?
            It was shown on Sunday between sessions. I can't find it online yet, but I caught some of it last week. It wasn't really focused on the BoM in particular or on proving its historicity, but it was chalk full of poorly produced scenes from ancient scripture.
            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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            • Historicity of The Book of Mormon

              Originally posted by Moliere View Post
              It was shown on Sunday between sessions. I can't find it online yet, but I caught some of it last week. It wasn't really focused on the BoM in particular or on proving its historicity, but it was chalk full of poorly produced scenes from ancient scripture.
              . Don't most chapels have whiteboards these days?
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              • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                . Don't most chapels have whiteboards these days?
                In our building the RS room does and that is it. I still have to wheel in a chalk board for my eq lessons. Just another example of inequality.
                "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                  . Don't most chapels have whiteboards these days?
                  We have a fairly new chapel (less than 5 years old) and all of the rooms have chalk boards.

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                  • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                    We have a fairly new chapel (less than 5 years old) and all of the rooms have chalk boards.

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                    Ours was built in the last 2 years and is the same.

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                    • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                      We have a fairly new chapel (less than 5 years old) and all of the rooms have chalk boards.

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                      Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                      Ours was built in the last 2 years and is the same.
                      One might say your chapels are chock-full of chalk boards.
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                      "What choice?" - Abe Petrovsky

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                      • I frak'n love the national geographic...

                        "Great Surprise"—Native Americans Have West Eurasian Origins

                        Oldest human genome reveals less of an East Asian ancestry than thought

                        Nearly one-third of Native American genes come from west Eurasian people linked to the Middle East and Europe, rather than entirely from East Asians as previously thought, according to a newly sequenced genome.


                        Based on the arm bone of a 24,000-year-old Siberian youth, the research could uncover new origins for America's indigenous peoples, as well as stir up fresh debate on Native American identities, experts say.


                        The study authors believe the new study could also help resolve some long-standing puzzles on the peopling of the New World, which include genetic oddities and archaeological inconsistencies.


                        "These results were a great surprise to us," said study co-author and ancient-DNA specialist Eske Willerslev, of the University of Copenhagen, Denmark.


                        "I hadn't expected anything like this. A genome related to present-day western Eurasian populations and modern Native Americans as well was really puzzling in the beginning. How could this happen?"
                        [...]
                        http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...eria-genetics/

                        OK, the timing may be off a bit (and even predates Adam) but we'll take it.
                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • At least until the next study contradicts it.

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                          • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                            I frak'n love the national geographic...


                            http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...eria-genetics/

                            OK, the timing may be off a bit (and even predates Adam) but we'll take it.
                            Adam is a literary character.
                            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                            --Jonathan Swift

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                            • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                              Adam is a literary character.
                              Adam is batman.

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                              "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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                              • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                                Adam is batman.

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                                Then who's Robin?
                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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