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  • Portland Ute
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 5647

    #1

    The LDS Church and the Peace Symbol

    Is there some official stance against the use of the peace symbol?

    I just got back from home teaching and was told the following story:

    I guess for girls camp, the Laurels leader was assigned to create a t shirt for the girls at girls camp.

    The design included a peace symbol

    I guess the Laurels' leader took a lot of heat for it.

    When I asked why during our home teaching visit, I was met with blank stares.

    I then asked, "She really had a lot of people get upset with her?"

    As if I had just asked "What's wrong with a glass of wine now and then?"

    I got the reply from my HT companion, with whom I have learned to get along, "Yes. A lot of people were upset about it. My wife and myself included! We thought it was wholly inappropriate that a symbol that represented drugs, free sex and all the rest would be used for a church activity."

    Long awkward moment of silence...

    Me: "Well, is everyone having a great summer so far?"
  • thesaint258
    aka Benito Hazard
    • Jan 2009
    • 3005

    #2
    All you can do at times like that is just roll your eyes and move along.
    Not that, sickos.

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    • myboynoah
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 21719

      #3
      Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
      Is there some official stance against the use of the peace symbol?

      I just got back from home teaching and was told the following story:

      I guess for girls camp, the Laurels leader was assigned to create a t shirt for the girls at girls camp.

      The design included a peace symbol

      I guess the Laurels' leader took a lot of heat for it.

      When I asked why during our home teaching visit, I was met with blank stares.

      I then asked, "She really had a lot of people get upset with her?"

      As if I had just asked "What's wrong with a glass of wine now and then?"

      I got the reply from my HT companion, with whom I have learned to get along, "Yes. A lot of people were upset about it. My wife and myself included! We thought it was wholly inappropriate that a symbol that represented drugs, free sex and all the rest would be used for a church activity."

      Long awkward moment of silence...

      Me: "Well, is everyone having a great summer so far?"
      I can see your companion's point. I don't know that I would get upset, but I wouldn't use a peace symbol for a church activity. No doubt the young woman had good intentions, she'll just need to wait for a generational change.
      Last edited by myboynoah; 06-27-2010, 07:57 PM.
      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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      • PaloAltoCougar
        Semper infra dignitatem
        • Nov 2008
        • 16926

        #4
        Twenty years ago, for getting straight A's in junior high, we granted our oldest daughter her wish of peace symbol earrings. When she was accosted by some who questioned the propriety of the symbol she told them that the symbol had been co-opted by the hippie and drug culture in the late '60s, but was in fact born in the '50s from the nuclear disarmament movement with the symbol being a combination of the semaphore signals for N and D. She told them she wasn't a hippie or a druggie, but wanted to reclaim the symbol for more righteous purposes, or did the critic want more nuclear warheads? She was pretty obnoxious.

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        • Moliere
          One man.....one pie
          • Oct 2009
          • 27843

          #5
          Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
          I got the reply from my HT companion, with whom I have learned to get along, "Yes. A lot of people were upset about it. My wife and myself included! We thought it was wholly inappropriate that a symbol that represented drugs, free sex and all the rest would be used for a church activity."
          This is why we also don't use the cross, because it has been adopted by the false religions. You can never be too careful with symbols. Best to stick to the CTR and RWH symbols to limit offense.
          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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          • Moliere
            One man.....one pie
            • Oct 2009
            • 27843

            #6
            On a semi-serious note, I found this blog post that sums it up. I skimmed it so I'm not sure how accurate it is but seems to explain where the aversion to the peace symbol came from.

            It is no secret that the 13th President of the LDS Church, Ezra Taft Benson, thought highly of (and had close associations with) the John Bi...


            That being said, I couldn't imagine growing up in the church during the 60s and 70s. Holy cow you older people lived through some strange times!
            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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            • myboynoah
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 21719

              #7
              Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
              On a semi-serious note, I found this blog post that sums it up. I skimmed it so I'm not sure how accurate it is but seems to explain where the aversion to the peace symbol came from.

              It is no secret that the 13th President of the LDS Church, Ezra Taft Benson, thought highly of (and had close associations with) the John Bi...


              That being said, I couldn't imagine growing up in the church during the 60s and 70s. Holy cow you older people lived through some strange times!
              I remember some discussion of it being a broken cross. No doubt that was common among good old-fashioned law abiding folks all over the U.S. I think its use by the 60s and 70s counter-culture movements has more impact. People used to also wear surfer's crosses based on the German iron cross from WWII.

              Dumb kids.
              Last edited by myboynoah; 06-27-2010, 08:54 PM.
              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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              • byu71
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 22070

                #8
                Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post

                That being said, I couldn't imagine growing up in the church during the 60s and 70s. Holy cow you older people lived through some strange times!
                Stinkin hippies, peace-niks and all of their ilk. They are the reason BYU adopted a rigidly enforced honor code. It is their fault BYU has a ceiling on how good their athletics can become and who wants to play in the sand with us.

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                • myboynoah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 21719

                  #9
                  Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                  Stinkin hippies, peace-niks and all of their ilk. They are the reason BYU adopted a rigidly enforced honor code. It is their fault BYU has a ceiling on how good their athletics can become and who wants to play in the sand with us.
                  Excellent point.

                  They should burn those peace-signed youth conference shirts.
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                  For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • New Mexican Disaster
                    Suomalainen
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 4549

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
                    Best to stick to the CTR and RWH symbols to limit offense.
                    CTR stands for Crazy Town Roswell here in my place of abode and signifies a local gang. It is spray painted over many vacant buildings and many folks have it tattooed on themselves. When we first moved here we wondered if there were not some Mormon gangsta kids all over the place.

                    We have also had people ask us about the CTR rings. and whether they had something to do wit Crazy Town Roswell.

                    I guess we should not use it around here, eh?

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                    • myboynoah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 21719

                      #11
                      Originally posted by New Mexican Disaster View Post
                      CTR stands for Crazy Town Roswell here in my place of abode and signifies a local gang. It is spray painted over many vacant buildings and many folks have it tattooed on themselves. When we first moved here we wondered if there were not some Mormon gangsta kids all over the place.

                      We have also had people ask us about the CTR rings. and whether they had something to do wit Crazy Town Roswell.

                      I guess we should not use it around here, eh?
                      Christ the Rock.
                      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                      • San Juan Sun
                        Kicked to the curb
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9214

                        #12
                        Originally posted by New Mexican Disaster View Post
                        CTR stands for Crazy Town Roswell here in my place of abode and signifies a local gang. It is spray painted over many vacant buildings and many folks have it tattooed on themselves. When we first moved here we wondered if there were not some Mormon gangsta kids all over the place.

                        We have also had people ask us about the CTR rings. and whether they had something to do wit Crazy Town Roswell.

                        I guess we should not use it around here, eh?
                        All the more reason to wear it. Now you've got backup.
                        "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

                        - Ty Cobb

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                        • mUUser
                          Giggity
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 1142

                          #13
                          This, from the same organization that requires its YW to sew/pin the tankini top to the tankini bottom. You can't surprise me anymore.

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                          • hostile
                            lollygagger
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 5736

                            #14
                            Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                            Twenty years ago, for getting straight A's in junior high, we granted our oldest daughter her wish of peace symbol earrings. When she was accosted by some who questioned the propriety of the symbol she told them that the symbol had been co-opted by the hippie and drug culture in the late '60s, but was in fact born in the '50s from the nuclear disarmament movement with the symbol being a combination of the semaphore signals for N and D. She told them she wasn't a hippie or a druggie, but wanted to reclaim the symbol for more righteous purposes, or did the critic want more nuclear warheads? She was pretty obnoxious.
                            Smart daughter. Good for her.
                            "You interns are like swallows. You shit all over my patients for six weeks and then fly off."

                            "Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."

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                            • New Mexican Disaster
                              Suomalainen
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 4549

                              #15
                              Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
                              All the more reason to wear it. Now you've got backup.
                              I wish. The all hate me because I am the person who helps their girlfriends get custody of their children while they are in prison.

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