The Great Life foundation

[LogMafia]

I have a sister that is worried about her husband attending these seminars. I have heard that this might be an offspring of mindspring/Harmony/Impact Training and if so, is this a cult?

I'm not sure what advice to give her, they have a tenuous marriage and may be willing to try anything at this point.

I can understand the need to try to save a marriage, but I just don't see how a four day training can do much else except waste your money.

any insight into this group would be appreciated.

I put this in the religion category do to rumors that the LDS Church is against this type of training.

[frank ryan]

I have a sister that is worried about her husband attending these seminars. I have heard that this might be an offspring of mindspring/Harmony/Impact Training and if so, is this a cult?

I'm not sure what advice to give her, they have a tenuous marriage and may be willing to try anything at this point.

I can understand the need to try to save a marriage, but I just don't see how a four day training can do much else except waste your money.

any insight into this group would be appreciated.

I put this in the religion category do to rumors that the LDS Church is against this type of training.

The church does not approve of those groups. It isn't rumor. Have the guy ask his bishop

[BlueHair]

I had never heard of The Great Life Foundation until this thread. I looked at their website and it looks harmless enough. What exactly do they do that make the church disapprove? It looks like some kind of counseling or coaching program.

For some reason, I started thinking of the Seinfeld episode where the carpet cleaning cult wouldn't recruit George.

[Commando]

I know people that have done this and have expressed great appreciation for their time in the seminar. It's basically life coaching/counseling. I don't think the Church is against it.

[UtahDan]

If this is the same as Harmony, which I knew some people who did back in the late 90s, basically they do these all night things where they get you tired and worn down so that you share your feelings and have powerful emotional experiences.

Not too long after they tried to get me to do it the church issued this:

http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/40005/Members-counseled-about-self-awareness-groups.html

Obviously that would not rule them all out depending on what they do, but the message was pretty clearly in response to how popular some of them had become. I think the counsel in the press release is very sound.

[SeattleUte]

If this is the same as Harmony, which I knew some people who did back in the late 90s, basically they do these all night things where they get you tired and worn down so that you share your feelings and have powerful emotional experiences.

Not too long after they tried to get me to do it the church issued this:

http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/40005/Members-counseled-about-self-awareness-groups.html

Obviously that would not rule them all out depending on what they do, but the message was pretty clearly in response to how popular some of them had become. I think the counsel in the press release is very sound.

I think this is about being worried about losing a grip of control over members' minds.

They once issued a similar statement counseling against oral sex. I think each member should ignore these bilious counsels and make up their own minds, using their own minds.

[UtahDan]

I think this is about being worried about losing a grip of control over members' minds.

They once issued a similar statement counseling against oral sex. I think each member should ignore these bilious counsels and make up their own minds, using their own minds.

You are like the witness on cross who won't admit that any particle of the other side's version of things is correct.

[Green Lantern]

Just noticed this thread. Great Life was founded by some of the owners of the company I currently work for. Before I started here, most of the management was required to go through the seminars and apparently they used to talk about it all the time. The workplace was probably pretty unbearable. Now it's not talked about as much, mainly because some of the new management think that those things are a load of crap, but when somebody brings it up they invariably say "I don't want to go into it too much, but it was one of the greatest experiences of my life."

I usually read that as "I spent an assload of money on it so I'm certainly not going to say anything bad about it and admit that I'm a fool."

I was invited to a seminar once but backed out when I heard that there was no food provided.

[DU Ute]

I was invited to a seminar once but backed out when I heard that there was no food provided.

Any member wort their salt should recognize that the Church would never endorse an organization that fails to provide refreshments.

[Green Lantern]

Any member wort their salt should recognize that the Church would never endorse an organization that fails to provide refreshments.

My feelings exactly.

[mrcolj]

And again...

Once again it has to be referring specifically to the Great Life Foundation and its former names (Impact/Harmony). 100% of it obviously applies to Scientology, but I don't think Scientology has a big following within Mormonism. I worked for a group that was heavy into The Secret and The Free Capitalists, and I'm sure most of it could/should be applied to them too. They had plenty of ideas that were contrary to church teachings, and they spent a lot of time trying to conflate their ideas with out-of-context off-the-mic quotes of long-dead prophets. They often preached that BYU was fallen and everyone should serve in the military for a tour before going on a mission... oh, and nonstop about the "Constitution Party"--who cares what they think except that they'd preach it in heavily religious contexts. And most every MLM has meetings unnecessarily late into the night for the sole sake of lowering your inhibitions to give you phony spiritual experiences and bonding-through-vulnerability.

[DU Ute]

And again...

Once again it has to be referring specifically to the Great Life Foundation and its former names (Impact/Harmony). 100% of it obviously applies to Scientology, but I don't think Scientology has a big following within Mormonism. I worked for a group that was heavy into The Secret and The Free Capitalists, and I'm sure most of it could/should be applied to them too. They had plenty of ideas that were contrary to church teachings, and they spent a lot of time trying to conflate their ideas with out-of-context off-the-mic quotes of long-dead prophets. They often preached that BYU was fallen and everyone should serve in the military for a tour before going on a mission... oh, and nonstop about the "Constitution Party"--who cares what they think except that they'd preach it in heavily religious contexts. And most every MLM has meetings unnecessarily late into the night for the sole sake of lowering your inhibitions to give you phony spiritual experiences and bonding-through-vulnerability.

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