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How does a group sign up for one of these treks? We might want to do one.
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There's a waiting list for several years. We signed up for it a couple of years ago, then the stake leadership went for training last summer in preparation for this trip. They've been meeting with youth and leaders for about 6 months to get ready.Originally posted by LA Ute View Postsigpic
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My great-great grandmother was 8 years old and was carried across by one of those boys. I don't know if it was one who died but...Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
Her dad died earlier in the trek and left G-G-Grandma with her two sisters and mom to pull a handcart alone. In most cases, when there's a GC talk about the Martin company, the source was my g-g grandma's diary which is among the more extensive around as she spent a lot of time documenting the experience when she was older
Don't mess with the women in my family.Comment
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Now don't you feel guilty about leaving the church after all your great-great grandmother did to get you there?Originally posted by Viking View PostAin't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
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GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!Comment
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No. I admit I think about her most days as I walk to work. Makes any difficulty I might be feeling seem totally insignificant. I also think that between hers and my viking genes, I should be okOriginally posted by falafel View PostComment
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I hated pioneer trek activities growing up. Hated them. There is nothing worse than traipsing around Scofield with a makeshift wheelbarrow wearing goofy clothes while watching people waterski on the reservoir. I only attended one and then firmly planted my flag in Lake Powell super-activity camp.
A couple years ago our stake did one of these and the youth made their own pioneer gear. After the event they stopped at the MacDo and created quite a scene. Keep in mind, this was shortly after the big Warren Jeff's bust and Big Love was in it's prime. I guess a few of the fellow MacDo customers made some comments to the leaders about brainwashing these kids and asking about polygamy. I'm sure it was a great teaching moment.Comment
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We took our two Jackson wards last summer. I was trek captain along with one of my young men who had just returned from his mission. I don't have any pioneer heritage, my parents are converts. I didn't have to plan the trek, but I had to manage the schedule and the movement of the group. Many times, I felt like I was herding cats. Having said all that, it was one of the biggest testimony builders for me in some time. I love the place, and am looking forward to taking my family there this summer.Comment
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Some folks on CUF complain about the tone in The Foyer from the apostates/non-believers. What about comments like that from falafel to Viking (Viking's post was nice in a nice thread). Or maybe I missed the sarcasm.Originally posted by falafel View PostComment
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I can see that. Maybe I missed the sarcasm as well.Originally posted by scottie View PostGive 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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I missed it then. Help me and Noah out -- what was the sarcasm?Originally posted by Eddie Jones View PostComment
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Leave the indignation to Viking -- he's more than capable of that on his own.Originally posted by scottie View PostComment
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Our stake does this once every 4 years. The intent is to do it frequently enough that every youth who has lived within the stake boundaries will have the opportunity at some point between the time they are 14 and 18. Some youth who go when they are 14 are able to go a second time the summer after graduating from H.S. We had a couple of kids who left on missions the fall after we did the trek.Originally posted by YOhio View Post
I think our stake takes the right approach. They have all of the fun activities, and they make Trek as much fun as possible - while maintaining portions of the experience as spiritual in nature. No one goes hungry, we ate really good. And it is infrequent enough that it is a little more "special" and most of the youth look forward to it.
It helps that they go on the Deseret Land and Livestock ranch - so they don't witness any waterskiing, and in all reality don't see a whole lot of anyone else until they are headed home.
And I recognize that it isn't for everyone. There were a couple of boys who had a very difficult time - one dropped his seminary registration after attending trek. At the same time, one of the boys in our "family" talked about having a personal spiritual experience for the first time in his life. I doubt he was the only one.Comment
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We had a bishopric party a few weekends ago and the topic turned to a Trek based youth conference the kids are going on this summer. I commented that I would only be involved in such a thing if we were going to be truly authentic. A few of the people at the party started telling me how authentic the Trek was going to be. I asked them if they would have rations of coffee and alcohol like the pioneers did. From the shocked responses, I assume they weren't aware of that element of authenticity.Comment
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Sounds like a really useful, constructive conversation.Originally posted by KillerDog View PostComment
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