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  • pellegrino
    miserere me
    • Jan 2009
    • 12100

    #1

    I really appreciated your testimony/talk

    It's not often that I feel the need to get up and share my beliefs with the congregation, but today I found myself doing exactly that. It's not that I suffer from glossophobia, rather the feelings and beliefs I have about God, Jesus Christ, and the church are very complex, not easily articulated and tied to deeply felt emotions that I don't fully understand myself. I don't share stories, I don't wax poetic. I am direct, deliberate, and to the point. If it weren't for the fact that I have difficulty in controlling my emotions I would be on the stand for all of 60 seconds or less. After the meeting, it invariably happens that no less than five people I do not know approach me or see me in the hall and say "I really appreciated your testimony." I get the same response when I give a formal talk.

    This is a common compliment in our church and I understand why it is offered freely, I just don't like it when it is directed toward me. I have my reasons, first and foremost because I feel some offer it in vain. They see me in my emotional state and not knowing what to say, it just comes out, almost a form of undesired consolation. Second, the prideful side of me (with which I am in constant battle) is pleased by these compliments and when they come it provides a sickening form of gratification that I find that revolting. I am reminded of Christ's description of the hypocrites who pray to be seen by others and in doing so they receive their reward. Such a thought makes me feel very uncomfortable. In short, I do my best to leave meetings where I participate quickly and quietly so as to avoid contact. I'd rather that nobody talk to me than receive a compliment like that. It's probably one of the reasons I avoid sharing publicly, and perhaps the reason I rarely compliment others' talks or testimonies.

    Today, something different happened. I was trying to get out of Dodge when a sister with whom I sing in the choir approached me. She could not speak. She was overcome. All she could do was mouth the words "Thank you" as she extended her hand to shake mine and then quickly left. At that I really had to get out of there fast too or risk becoming emotional in front of everyone again. Nonetheless, I was touched at her sincerity and it caused me to reconsider my attitude towards compliments about testimonies or talks. In talking about it with my wife, I've come to the conclusion that perhaps I've been wrong in judging others' reasons for offering compliments, which is what caused me to post about it here.

    Do you give or receive compliments like that? If you give them why do you do so? If you get them, how do you respond and how do they make you feel?
    Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
    God forgives many things for an act of mercy
    Alessandro Manzoni

    Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

    pelagius
  • hostile
    lollygagger
    • Dec 2009
    • 5736

    #2
    I struggle with the same issues regarding pride and "having your reward" by doing something to be seen/congratulated. I usually don't offer comments on other's talks/testimonies other than to say "Thank you."
    "You interns are like swallows. You shit all over my patients for six weeks and then fly off."

    "Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."

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    • RC Vikings
      Known Heterosexual
      • Nov 2008
      • 8788

      #3
      If someone I know well gives a testimony that is Christ centered I try to tell them how much I appreciated their thoughts.

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      • pellegrino
        miserere me
        • Jan 2009
        • 12100

        #4
        Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
        If someone I know well gives a testimony that is Christ centered I try to tell them how much I appreciated their thoughts.
        So, would you do the same for someone you didn't know well?
        Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
        God forgives many things for an act of mercy
        Alessandro Manzoni

        Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

        pelagius

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        • Katy Lied
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 9435

          #5
          I will let someone know if their testimony touched me. It is rarely a testimony accompanied by tears or overwrought emotionalism. Not that there's anything wrong or insincere with the wet works. It's just that a quiet, understated approach appeals to me the most.

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          • BlueHair
            Boom Bitches!!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 2894

            #6
            Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
            It's not often that I feel the need to get up and share my beliefs with the congregation, but today I found myself doing exactly that. It's not that I suffer from glossophobia, rather the feelings and beliefs I have about God, Jesus Christ, and the church are very complex, not easily articulated and tied to deeply felt emotions that I don't fully understand myself. I don't share stories, I don't wax poetic. I am direct, deliberate, and to the point. If it weren't for the fact that I have difficulty in controlling my emotions I would be on the stand for all of 60 seconds or less. After the meeting, it invariably happens that no less than five people I do not know approach me or see me in the hall and say "I really appreciated your testimony." I get the same response when I give a formal talk.

            This is a common compliment in our church and I understand why it is offered freely, I just don't like it when it is directed toward me. I have my reasons, first and foremost because I feel some offer it in vain. They see me in my emotional state and not knowing what to say, it just comes out, almost a form of undesired consolation. Second, the prideful side of me (with which I am in constant battle) is pleased by these compliments and when they come it provides a sickening form of gratification that I find that revolting. I am reminded of Christ's description of the hypocrites who pray to be seen by others and in doing so they receive their reward. Such a thought makes me feel very uncomfortable. In short, I do my best to leave meetings where I participate quickly and quietly so as to avoid contact. I'd rather that nobody talk to me than receive a compliment like that. It's probably one of the reasons I avoid sharing publicly, and perhaps the reason I rarely compliment others' talks or testimonies.

            Today, something different happened. I was trying to get out of Dodge when a sister with whom I sing in the choir approached me. She could not speak. She was overcome. All she could do was mouth the words "Thank you" as she extended her hand to shake mine and then quickly left. At that I really had to get out of there fast too or risk becoming emotional in front of everyone again. Nonetheless, I was touched at her sincerity and it caused me to reconsider my attitude towards compliments about testimonies or talks. In talking about it with my wife, I've come to the conclusion that perhaps I've been wrong in judging others' reasons for offering compliments, which is what caused me to post about it here.

            Do you give or receive compliments like that? If you give them why do you do so? If you get them, how do you respond and how do they make you feel?
            Don't be so hard on yourself. You felt good after the compliment (which I assume was the intent of the person complimenting you), you didn't speak for the purpose of being complimented. There is a big difference.

            Let me give you an example. After my wife and I make love, she always raves about how good of a lover I am. How I satisfy her every need. This makes me feel good, but I don't perform at such a high level to gain compliments, I do it for love.
            Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks

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            • faith
              Banned
              • Feb 2009
              • 109

              #7
              When I was a missionary, one thing that was really difficult for me was the fact that I was supposed to be constantly sharing my testimony. This was hard because it seemed as if my testimony was a fluid sort of thing and also because it always felt like a personal, intimate sort of thing. Yet despite my reluctance then and my current disassociation from the church, I really appreciate hearing testimonies from people. I especially like to hear from people who aren’t very open because it helps me understand them, which often helps me care for and relate to people more, and feel more connected to them. It also helps me ponder on my own spiritual beliefs and experiences. I don’t always compliment people, because sometimes I feel at loss at how to articulate my genuine appreciate and fear that it might come across trite. Sometimes, though, I can’t help but express a thank you, because I am overcome with the beauty of someone’s words and experiences.

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              • myboynoah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 21719

                #8
                I really appreciated your post.
                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                  Time to camp
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 26082

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BlueHair View Post
                  Don't be so hard on yourself. You felt good after the compliment (which I assume was the intent of the person complimenting you), you didn't speak for the purpose of being complimented. There is a big difference.

                  Let me give you an example. After my wife and I make love, she always raves about how good of a lover I am. How I satisfy her every need. This makes me feel good, but I don't perform at such a high level to gain compliments, I do it for love.
                  LOL.
                  Get confident, stupid
                  -landpoke

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                  • Babs
                    Not a Lawyer
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 17128

                    #10
                    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                    I really appreciated your post.
                    this is funny.

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                    • Katy Lied
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 9435

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BlueHair View Post
                      After my wife and I make love, she always raves about how good of a lover I am. How I satisfy her every need. This makes me feel good, but I don't perform at such a high level to gain compliments, I do it for love.
                      This is why all of us here at CUF love you.

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                      • Indy Coug
                        Heartless Bastard
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 18747

                        #12
                        Sometimes, the gratitude is nothing more than for your filling up enough time so that they didn't end up having to participate.
                        Everything in life is an approximation.

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                        • Katy Lied
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 9435

                          #13
                          Originally posted by faith View Post
                          When I was a missionary, one thing that was really difficult for me was the fact that I was supposed to be constantly sharing my testimony. This was hard because it seemed as if my testimony was a fluid sort of thing and also because it always felt like a personal, intimate sort of thing. Yet despite my reluctance then and my current disassociation from the church, I really appreciate hearing testimonies from people. I especially like to hear from people who aren’t very open because it helps me understand them, which often helps me care for and relate to people more, and feel more connected to them. It also helps me ponder on my own spiritual beliefs and experiences. I don’t always compliment people, because sometimes I feel at loss at how to articulate my genuine appreciate and fear that it might come across trite. Sometimes, though, I can’t help but express a thank you, because I am overcome with the beauty of someone’s words and experiences.
                          Interesting. Now that you are no longer a worshipping mormon, do you feel as though the option of relating to others through shared religious experiences is gone? Do you find that absent this mystical shariing, you find yourself more impatient with them (has this hurt your relationships with members that you still regularly interact with?) Do you miss the emotional sharing?

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                          • Goatnapper'96
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 10920

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BlueHair View Post
                            Let me give you an example. After my wife and I make love, she always raves about how good of a lover I am. How I satisfy her every need. This makes me feel good, but I don't perform at such a high level to gain compliments, I do it for love.
                            This is entirely too rad!
                            Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                            -General George S. Patton

                            I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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                            • jay santos
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 13652

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                              It's not often that I feel the need to get up and share my beliefs with the congregation, but today I found myself doing exactly that. It's not that I suffer from glossophobia, rather the feelings and beliefs I have about God, Jesus Christ, and the church are very complex, not easily articulated and tied to deeply felt emotions that I don't fully understand myself. I don't share stories, I don't wax poetic. I am direct, deliberate, and to the point. If it weren't for the fact that I have difficulty in controlling my emotions I would be on the stand for all of 60 seconds or less. After the meeting, it invariably happens that no less than five people I do not know approach me or see me in the hall and say "I really appreciated your testimony." I get the same response when I give a formal talk.

                              This is a common compliment in our church and I understand why it is offered freely, I just don't like it when it is directed toward me. I have my reasons, first and foremost because I feel some offer it in vain. They see me in my emotional state and not knowing what to say, it just comes out, almost a form of undesired consolation. Second, the prideful side of me (with which I am in constant battle) is pleased by these compliments and when they come it provides a sickening form of gratification that I find that revolting. I am reminded of Christ's description of the hypocrites who pray to be seen by others and in doing so they receive their reward. Such a thought makes me feel very uncomfortable. In short, I do my best to leave meetings where I participate quickly and quietly so as to avoid contact. I'd rather that nobody talk to me than receive a compliment like that. It's probably one of the reasons I avoid sharing publicly, and perhaps the reason I rarely compliment others' talks or testimonies.

                              Today, something different happened. I was trying to get out of Dodge when a sister with whom I sing in the choir approached me. She could not speak. She was overcome. All she could do was mouth the words "Thank you" as she extended her hand to shake mine and then quickly left. At that I really had to get out of there fast too or risk becoming emotional in front of everyone again. Nonetheless, I was touched at her sincerity and it caused me to reconsider my attitude towards compliments about testimonies or talks. In talking about it with my wife, I've come to the conclusion that perhaps I've been wrong in judging others' reasons for offering compliments, which is what caused me to post about it here.

                              Do you give or receive compliments like that? If you give them why do you do so? If you get them, how do you respond and how do they make you feel?
                              The sister in the choir is just very skilled at giving vain compliments.

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