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  • Originally posted by nikuman View Post
    My personal view on garments, independent of any view I have of the temple, is that zealotry has made them more difficult and mandatory than they originally intended, with a couple of minor exceptions (such as 1923). So I wear them when it suits me and don't when it doesn't, and don't pay too much attention to it.
    Garments truly are an interesting part of mormonism. My bishopric 2nd counselor mows his lawn with his shirt (and garment tops) off.....maybe some relation to Niku whereas my FIL wears his waterskiing and will change out of them right before getting into the water and right after getting out (they have a closed bow which provides some privacy).
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post


      Guess it's time to change into a sleevless shirt and enjoy a Danish beer.
      I was going to agree, but can't shake the image of a beerslayer wearing a wife-beater.

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      • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

        maybe some relation to Niku whereas my FIL wears his waterskiing and will change out of them right before getting into the water and right after getting out (they have a closed bow which provides some privacy).
        After he was first made a GA Cec Samuelson would dress up (somewhat) on Sundays at Lake Powell and would do 'churchy' stuff all day long, reading scriptures for hours on end, etc.. We would joke with him that he should be OK waterskiing on Sunday so long as he wore his tie.

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        • Originally posted by falafel View Post
          Its never about mesh.
          Agree. Not if you have any body hair anyway. Ouch.

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          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
            Garments truly are an interesting part of mormonism. My bishopric 2nd counselor mows his lawn with his shirt (and garment tops) off.....maybe some relation to Niku whereas my FIL wears his waterskiing and will change out of them right before getting into the water and right after getting out (they have a closed bow which provides some privacy).
            My wife is on record saying that all outdoor activity done during the summer in Houston should be garment free.
            Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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            • Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
              We bitch and you bitch about our bitching. Equilibrium has returned to the world.
              Technically I just applaud his bitching...
              "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

              Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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              • Originally posted by nikuman View Post
                My wife is on record saying that all outdoor activity done during the summer in Houston should be garment free.
                Right, but no one goes outside in the summer so that doesn't help at all.
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
                  Mesh. It's all abt mesh.
                  Exactly. Before I went on my mission to Hong Kong, I was determined to find the material that would lead to the least amount of sweat running down my back. I experiemented with all the different materials at the time, and none was even in the same ballpark as nylon mesh. It is much cooler as an undergarment, and it dries much faster when you take your shirt off. I go with a cotton T sometimes when the whether is cooler, but otherwise I have never deviated from the nylon mesh, and my life has been blessed immensely for it. Especially since I live in Houston now.

                  I know that nylon mesh is true.

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                  • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                    My bishopric 2nd counselor mows his lawn with his shirt (and garment tops) off.....
                    I often go G-free to mow the lawn, but I leave my shirt on. Sun protection.

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                    • Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
                      I agree, there should be some room for personal preference and comfort.

                      FWIW, zealotry also changed the interpretation of the Word of Wisdom...the revelation that starts out stating specifically that it's not a commandment.

                      Guess it's time to change into a sleevless shirt and enjoy a Danish beer.
                      belgian is better.
                      Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                      God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                      Alessandro Manzoni

                      Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                      pelagius

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                      • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                        I'm not sure it is anymore, I think it's become a modesty helper or otherwise they would do away with the sleeves on the woman g's.
                        And the men's as well. Why not tank tops?

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                        • The strangest thing to me about the whole Mormon culture is when I hear someone say "and he wasn't wearing his garment's". Honestly what has turned us into a bunch of garment police because I notice like most others in the church, I'm not proud of it but I notice.

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                          • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                            The strangest thing to me about the whole Mormon culture is when I hear someone say "and he wasn't wearing his garment's". Honestly what has turned us into a bunch of garment police because I notice like most others in the church, I'm not proud of it but I notice.
                            we have been conditioned to look for outward signs of devotion, wearing garments is one of many.

                            I laugh when I think about this, but when last moved we were checking out pre schools for our oldest. In one of the schools there was a mom (they were all co-ops with helper parents in every day) who gave off a Mormon vibe. I wasn't sure what it was, and figured I was making it up, but then I sat behind her in circle time and could see the distinctive garment lines in her t-shirt. My wife noticed the same thing.
                            Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                            God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                            Alessandro Manzoni

                            Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                            pelagius

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                            • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                              The strangest thing to me about the whole Mormon culture is when I hear someone say "and he wasn't wearing his garment's". Honestly what has turned us into a bunch of garment police because I notice like most others in the church, I'm not proud of it but I notice.
                              Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                              we have been conditioned to look for outward signs of devotion, wearing garments is one of many.

                              I laugh when I think about this, but when last moved we were checking out pre schools for our oldest. In one of the schools there was a mom (they were all co-ops with helper parents in every day) who gave off a Mormon vibe. I wasn't sure what it was, and figured I was making it up, but then I sat behind her in circle time and could see the distinctive garment lines in her t-shirt. My wife noticed the same thing.
                              Brethren, your underwear obsession is OK, and sanctioned by the church.

                              Quote:

                              "Wearing the garment is also an outward expression of an inward commitment to follow the Savior." (CHOI)

                              What better way to quickly judge someone's commitment to God than to look for tell-tale signs of underwear?
                              "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                              "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                              - SeattleUte

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                              • I hate to lower the boom on everyone else in this thread, but here's the rest of the CHOI section on garments:


                                "Endowed members should wear the temple garment both day and night. They should not remove it, either entirely or partially, to work in the yard or for other activities that can reasonably be done with the garment worn properly beneath the clothing. Nor should they remove it to lounge around the home in swimwear or immodest clothing. When they must remove the garment, such as for swimming, they should put it back on as soon as possible.

                                Members should not adjust the garment or wear it contrary to instructions in order to accommodate different styles of clothing. Nor should they alter the garment from its authorized design. When two-piece garments are used, both pieces should always be worn.

                                The garment is sacred and should be treated with respect at all times. Garments should be kept off the floor. They should also be kept clean and mended. After garments are washed, they should not be hung in public areas to dry. Nor should they be displayed or exposed to the view of people who do not understand their significance."



                                No cultish behavior to see here. Move along...
                                "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                                "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                                - SeattleUte

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