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Which miracles literally happened?
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Which miracles literally happened?
210God(s) created/organized the earth “in 6 days”3.81%8Noah, 7 people and animals survived a world-wide flood2.86%6The Red Sea parted and Israel crossed over on dry ground8.57%18Jesus was resurrected to a glorified state15.24%32Jesus healed the blind, leprous, etc and raised the dead14.29%30Jesus walked on water12.38%26Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego were unharmed in a furnace8.57%18Jesus touched stones giving light to Jaredites journey10.00%21Three days of darkness and tumult after Jesus’ death12.38%26Moses sees in vision “all the children of men”11.90%25The poll is expired.
Last edited by optimomojo; 07-02-2015, 05:07 AM.Tags: None
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You should get used to being excluded. It will prepare you for the next life.Originally posted by RobinFindersonSince there is a 'none' option, the atheists and skeptics are locked out of the vote. Oh well.τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν
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Nobody knows if any of these things happened. I don't get this poll.
You might as well ask the board whether you walked on water or saw a vision today. We can't prove you didn't. But it doesn't seem likely.
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Other than folks like me not being able to vote, this poll is pretty interesting. It's good to see that people here are generally skeptical of Genesis.
While Jesus' miracles aren't any more likely than those described in Genesis, at least it's just a matter of isolated miraculous incidents rather than the whole of science being completely wrong, as Genesis would require.
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Jesus was resurrected to a glorified state is the only one that really matters to me so I voted for it.
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You forgot 4th and 18, "magic happens," and Max to George. Those really happened.
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Do you think that the believers should have an "all" or "none" mentality?Originally posted by SonOFpeRdiTioNThat was kind of by design. Sorry.
While I don't agree with your point about science, I do agree that none of the miracles are any more likely than the other. That's what I find interesting about the poll: believers picking and choosing which miracles to accept."The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."
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Because I can't resist a poll, I went ahead and voted for "God created the world in 'six days,'" with the usual caveat that maybe a day in God's time is different than a day in human time, and maybe God isn't God.Last edited by RobinFinderson; 03-19-2010, 09:41 AM.
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Life is like a hand of Texas Hold 'Em, and I'm all in.
I've got no interest in particle splitting which of the grandiose actions I'll accept or reject. I've had my own "miracles" in my life, and based upon that, I'll take at face value the things the scriptures tell me.
I'll say it again - Faith is the key not skepticism. Your personal intelligence will not redeem you, only your inability to overcome your intelligence, and be as a little child.
(Does being on CUF count as a "Senior Mission?")
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Honestly, you don't get it? It's simply a measure of what people believe literally happened.Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostNobody knows if any of these things happened. I don't get this poll.
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I don't think that's a fair charachterization. There are reasons we might believe that one thing happened and another didn't. You should expect more doubts to creep up when there are issues of historiography; hence, an event described in the book of Genesis is less credible than an event in the New Testament (which itself is not free of historiographical issues). On the other hand, we are more likely to believe in miracles which multiple sources (such as the book of Mormon or latter-day revelation) confirm. As such, a Latter-day Saint is most likely to believe in the resurrection, since three books of scripture and modern prophets say it happened.Originally posted by SonOFpeRdiTioNThat was kind of by design. Sorry.
While I don't agree with your point about science, I do agree that none of the miracles are any more likely than the other. That's what I find interesting about the poll: believers picking and choosing which miracles to accept.
This isn't picking and choosing any more than believing that Washington crossed the Delaware but didn't chop down the cherry tree is picking and choosing.τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν
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I think you mean 'learning.' Intelligence is or isn't.Originally posted by clackamascoug View Post[b] Faith is the key not skepticism. Your personal intelligence will not redeem you, only your inability to overcome your intelligence, and be as a little child."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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Smart people don't believe any of this stuff literally happened.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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I'm sure your testimonial that they happened gives all smart people who might care some solace.Originally posted by SonOFpeRdiTioNThey'll fit right in with the learned Pharisees, I'm sure.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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