Being the SS president I need to be there but I'm not sure how many more of these SS lessons I can take. One of my GD teachers is Jack Weyland, the author, and even he struggles to make it interesting.
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Yesterday in class no one knew the term "Deus Ex Machina" so I explained it and we discussed it's occurrences in the life of Abraham, Ishmael, and Isaac, and how the Savior is the ultimate deus ex machina.
We also discussed the seemingly harsh treatment of Hagar and Ishmael when they were turfed out of Abraham's household with nary a crust of bread, to the point where they were going to die. We went over the circumstances wherein Hagar receives heavenly visitations and noted that in both cases, she was hungry, thirsty, desperate with no one to turn to, and generally low of spirit. We speculated that perhaps Hagar needed to be brought low before she was spiritually ready for an angel, and both times what she was told was miraculous, so the experiences were good for her. -
Wow! I am not well versed in literature and I even know what that means.Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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Didn't the late apostle Neal say if the meeting failed you are the failure? We have one person seeks to teach Sunday School can go way way off on many things. Called subsitute Sunday School teacher so he does not teach though makes it interesting.
His comments spice class but ours is fairly uneventful in many ways.Comment
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Wait...Jack Weyland is in your ward? Will you please punch him in the face and tell him that his books suck? For me?Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
While I've never actually read anything that he's written, my mom and sister closest to my age would discuss it at the dinner table. Just listening to them would cause me to lose my appetite and I vowed that if I ever met him, I would punch him in the face for ruining more than one dinner for me."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
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I had a sunday school teacher when I was maybe 10 or 11 would do a ten minute lesson then read one of these books. We actually all thought that was super cool.Comment
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Why you gotta put Jesus in a machine?Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
The OT takes a lot of work to even understand the events in their own context, let alone to draw any modern-day application. The curriculum skips large chunks of the text, leaving the student with a disjointed understanding of the historical narrative. Factor in an English translation that's 400 years old, some reluctance to incorporate supplementary commentaries, and modern literalist readings, and you're screwed.
The OT manual would be better served, IMO, if it spent a couple of weeks (or even a month) tracing the historical development of the events and the text. Any decent seminar begins with an overview of the historical context, however superficial. Understanding the nature of the Assyrians would shed light on why Jonah was so scared to go, etc."More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
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On the contrary, I am enjoying it. How can stories about fire from heaven, incest, human sacrifice, and mother/son birthright conspiracies not be interesting?Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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They need a week or two for Nibley's Book of Enoch.Comment
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It may be the 1 pm start time and the weather getting a little nicer. I sit in that class wishing I was outside doing something and that 40 minutes feels like 3 or 4 hours. I swear I have the patience of a Sunbeam when it comes to sitting in class.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostComment
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YES! I concur compeltely. I HATE the piecemeal approach that is followed in GD. I find placing the text in the historical narrative almost ALWAYS makes it more interesting and comprehendable.Originally posted by Solon View Post
SOLON FOR BISHOP!PLesa excuse the tpyos.Comment
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But how many know Appleseed Ex Machina?Originally posted by Eddie Jones View PostAin't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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Figure I'll forgo starting a new thread and just build on this exciting one....
The Old Testament is a pretty cool book of scripture of which I know little about. Part of that is because I love the NT and have spent considerable time reading and studying the NT both using correlated and uncorrelated materials. There really is no substitute for the accounts of Jesus as written/told by those near his time. However, I really want to learn more about the OT, but being the anti-correlite that I am, I wanted something more substantial and less proof-texted. I've got a bunch of Bible commentaries, but then I stumbled across these free Yale courses and they have them for both the OT and the NT. Granted these are lectures for someone on my level, which is the beginner level, so the scriptural brainiacs on this board might find these boring, but I thought I'd share with the masses.
The courses seem to go in order of the books in the Bible, which at some point might match up a bit to the SS lessons...although I guess we have to get through Moses/Abraham first before we get to the actual OT...
Anyway, hopefully these add a bit to everyone's weekly study of the OT."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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I've been in primary for the last five years, so I wouldn't know what goes on in GD these days. I know last year you guys were talking about how actual history got mixed in with the lessons with interesting results at times. Will documentary hypothesis and JEPD come into play this year? I have this vision of a young edgy Progmo type teacher teaching JEPD and all the old conservative type high priests' heads exploding.Comment
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That's why I like OT. There is no corelite agonizing over whether this or that event is spiritually uplifting. Its all so long ago that nobody cares how this makes the ancient Church look-- we can attack OT content however we want.Comment
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