A perfect brightness of hope?

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  • RC Vikings
    Known Heterosexual
    • Nov 2008
    • 8788

    #1

    A perfect brightness of hope?

    “Wherefore, ye must press forward with a steadfastness in Christ, having a perfect brightness of hope, and a love of God and of all men. Wherefore, if ye shall press forward, feasting upon the word of Christ, and endure to the end, behold, thus saith the Father: Ye shall have eternal life.”

    "Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy."

    What is a perfect brightness of hope and at what point does endure to the end (Sunday School every week) overcome having joy (golf or skiing every Sunday).
  • Moliere
    One man.....one pie
    • Oct 2009
    • 27820

    #2
    Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
    “Wherefore, ye must press forward with a steadfastness in Christ, having a perfect brightness of hope, and a love of God and of all men. Wherefore, if ye shall press forward, feasting upon the word of Christ, and endure to the end, behold, thus saith the Father: Ye shall have eternal life.”

    "Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy."

    What is a perfect brightness of hope and at what point does endure to the end (Sunday School every week) overcome having joy (golf or skiing every Sunday).
    Probably a cookie cutter answer, but we typically think of this phrase in a mortal realm, whereas God probably looks at it from an eternal realm. Notice that it says "that they might have joy" not "that they will have joy". I would say this could be interpreted to mean that man has the potential to have eternal joy through exaltation, not that man can be happy on earth in the here and now.

    Not that we can't be happy now, but just that the scripture is looking for into the eternities.
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • clackamascoug
      Banned
      • Dec 2009
      • 9709

      #3
      Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
      “Wherefore, ye must press forward with a steadfastness in Christ, having a perfect brightness of hope, and a love of God and of all men. Wherefore, if ye shall press forward, feasting upon the word of Christ, and endure to the end, behold, thus saith the Father: Ye shall have eternal life.”

      "Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy."

      What is a perfect brightness of hope and at what point does endure to the end (Sunday School every week) overcome having joy (golf or skiing every Sunday).
      I think Paul H. Dunn may have been right afterall. He lived next to a friend down in the AF/Highland river bottom back in the day, and he was an avid Sunday golfer. I would personally have no problem golfing on Sunday, (after Sacrament Meeting) but there is that problem of setting a good example for the kids.

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      • RobinFinderson
        Banned
        • Nov 2008
        • 10548

        #4
        Liberating my Sundays was probably the single most joy-creating religious choice of my life.

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        • RobinFinderson
          Banned
          • Nov 2008
          • 10548

          #5
          Originally posted by clackamascoug View Post
          I think Paul H. Dunn may have been right afterall. He lived next to a friend down in the AF/Highland river bottom back in the day, and he was an avid Sunday golfer. I would personally have no problem golfing on Sunday, (after Sacrament Meeting) but there is that problem of setting a good example for the kids.
          If you are golfing while the kids are at Sunday School, they will never see your terrible swing, and thus the problem of setting a bad example is solved.

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          • JohnnyLingo
            La Naranja
            • Nov 2008
            • 3976

            #6
            Originally posted by clackamascoug View Post
            I think Paul H. Dunn may have been right afterall. He lived next to a friend down in the AF/Highland river bottom back in the day, and he was an avid Sunday golfer. I would personally have no problem golfing on Sunday, (after Sacrament Meeting) but there is that problem of setting a good example for the kids.
            If you don't think there's anything wrong with golfing on Sunday, why worry about teaching your kids that there's nothing wrong with golfing on Sunday?

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