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  • Solon
    Lost in the flood
    • Nov 2008
    • 5747

    #1

    Mormon Scholars Testify

    A friend sent this along.

    Learn more about Latter-day Saint Scholars Testify at FAIR, a nonprofit offering faithful answers and gospel-centered resources on Church history, doctrine, and culture.


    The few I read came across to me as very sincere.

    Are there any on there that aren't faculty at the byu?
    "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
    -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
  • PaloAltoCougar
    Semper infra dignitatem
    • Nov 2008
    • 16921

    #2
    Clayton Christensen's a professor at Harvard's B School. He was a freshman classmate of mine at BYU, though he went on to Oxford and Harvard while I stayed at a school with a better football program. I liked his story about moving from one residence in Cambridge to another, and he put out the call to the EQ for assistance with the move. One of the many who showed up was Mitt Romney despite having just lost his Senate race with Kennedy and having a broken collarbone (unclear if this was inflicted by Kennedy).

    Clayton has done me some favors in the past and is a very good person, not to mention an the preeminent business professors in the country.

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    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69561

      #3
      Originally posted by Solon View Post
      A friend sent this along.

      Learn more about Latter-day Saint Scholars Testify at FAIR, a nonprofit offering faithful answers and gospel-centered resources on Church history, doctrine, and culture.


      The few I read came across to me as very sincere.

      Are there any on there that aren't faculty at the byu?
      Looks like the Christensen guy is on the faculty of the business school at Harvard.
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • wuapinmon
        Soul Plumber
        • Dec 2008
        • 30711

        #4
        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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        • SeattleUte
          Faith crisis consultant
          • Nov 2008
          • 20837

          #5
          Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
          These are very long essays; as is customary, prolixity, verbosity and length seem to obscure what ought to be simple and sublime expressions.

          No, I haven't read them and don't intend to. Does anyone of them just say they believe in the LDS Church because he believes Joseph Smith's stories or that the Book of Mormon is a genuine acient record? (TIP: Daniel Peterson is the best bet.)
          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

          --Jonathan Swift

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          • SeattleUte
            Faith crisis consultant
            • Nov 2008
            • 20837

            #6
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            Looks like the Christensen guy is on the faculty of the business school at Harvard.
            So one is a business professor and the rest are on the FARMS payroll?
            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

            --Jonathan Swift

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            • Jeff Lebowski
              Corporate lackey for Jesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 69561

              #7
              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
              So one is a business professor and the rest are on the FARMS payroll?
              Looks that way.
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • creekster
                It is NOT a monkey!
                • Nov 2008
                • 22661

                #8
                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                These are very long essays; as is customary, prolixity, verbosity and length seem to obscure what ought to be simple and sublime expressions.

                No, I haven't read them and don't intend to. Does anyone of them just say they believe in the LDS Church because he believes Joseph Smith's stories or that the Book of Mormon is a genuine acient record? (TIP: Daniel Peterson is the best bet.)
                COming from a guy whose posts are always short and quick to read, I can see how prolixity would bother you.
                PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                • Moliere
                  One man.....one pie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 27822

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Solon View Post
                  Hm, not sure what the big point here is with the website. Is it that intellectuals and researchers can be Mormons? Is it supposed to be faith promoting? I guess I just don't want to take the time to read it since I don't think it will have any impact on me.

                  I would rather see the following:

                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • Rosebud
                    sledgirl
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1363

                    #10
                    Christensen is accustomed to receiving incessant accolades and respect. He has served as a GA. He is the preeminent LDS "scholar" and is often interviewed by newspapers and magazines as such. He often publicly defended his friend Mitt Romney during his campaign. His testimony accurately mirrors the culture he lives in. He has a lot of power and will defend one of its primary sources in writing. Just sayin'....

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                    • SeattleUte
                      Faith crisis consultant
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 20837

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
                      Christensen is accustomed to receiving incessant accolades and respect. He has served as a GA. He is the preeminent LDS "scholar" and is often interviewed by newspapers and magazines as such. He often publicly defended his friend Mitt Romney during his campaign. His testimony accurately mirrors the culture he lives in. He has a lot of power and will defend one of its primary sources in writing. Just sayin'....
                      Are you saying it's hard to separate their expressions of faith from personal social and economic intrests?
                      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                      --Jonathan Swift

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                      • Non Sequitur
                        Where did I put my bodkin
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 5773

                        #12
                        Couldn't find Orson Scott Card. WTF?
                        "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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                        • CardiacCoug
                          вот так штука
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11013

                          #13
                          I actually really like this part of what Clayton Christensen wrote.

                          One of the curses that afflicts successful, prosperous people – many of whom have extraordinary talents and good hearts – is that they tend to live and work amongst similarly successful, prosperous people. They thereby become isolated from those who need their help. What I appreciate about the Mormon Church as an infrastructure for Christian living is that it puts me in touch with people I can help. I told a friend once, “If you truly want to live your life as Christ taught, then start coming to the Mormon Church. You don’t even have to believe what we believe. But if you want to practice Christianity, this is where the state-of-the-art is practiced.” This is why I choose to belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
                          Sure, there are plenty of other organizations in which Christian principles can be applied. I'm not sure the Church really is "state-of-the-art" when it comes to this. But as someone who would focus exclusively on my career and family if left to my own devices, the Church helps give me some opportunities to meet and help people I otherwise wouldn't know about.

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                          • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                            Time to camp
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 26082

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            These are very long essays; as is customary, prolixity, verbosity and length seem to obscure what ought to be simple and sublime expressions.

                            No, I haven't read them and don't intend to. Does anyone of them just say they believe in the LDS Church because he believes Joseph Smith's stories or that the Book of Mormon is a genuine acient record? (TIP: Daniel Peterson is the best bet.)
                            Is he related to Mark?
                            Get confident, stupid
                            -landpoke

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                            • LA Ute
                              Receiver of Memory
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19512

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                              I actually really like this part of what Clayton Christensen wrote.



                              Sure, there are plenty of other organizations in which Christian principles can be applied. I'm not sure the Church really is "state-of-the-art" when it comes to this. But as someone who would focus exclusively on my career and family if left to my own devices, the Church helps give me some opportunities to meet and help people I otherwise wouldn't know about.
                              Agree 100%. When colleagues who don't know me well yet learn about the service activities that are commonplace among, they sometimes look at me like I just sprouted antlers. That's not a commentary on them , it just reminds me of how fortunate we are to have some real opportunities for perspective and balance in terms of our activites and those with whom we associate.
                              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                              ― W.H. Auden


                              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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