Does old age sometimes affect the judgment of Church leaders?

[SoonerCoug]

Poll.

[Moliere]

Of course it does. The older you get the easier it is to speak the truth. My grandpa doesn't hold back anymore. When he's going to fart, he lets me know and then rips one.

Old people reach a stage where they don't care what people think of them. It's not being senile, it's realizing you don't have a lot of time left to deal with people so you are just blunt.

[SoonerCoug]

Interesting results so far.

[WashingtonCoug]

I voted yes, becuase I think it gives them better judgment.

[Sizzle]

I don't think it necessarily makes them senile.

In fact, I remember Gordon B. Hinckley addressed this very issue in his 60 minutes interview with Mike Wallace. His response was how wonderful it was that we had a church run by men with life experience.

But you're right, they are all senile. We should have more learned people in charge when they are younger, because they really know what is going on.

[SoonerCoug]

I don't think it necessarily makes them senile.

In fact, I remember Gordon B. Hinckley addressed this very issue in his 60 minutes interview with Mike Wallace. His response was how wonderful it was that we had a church run by men with life experience.

But you're right, they are all senile. We should have more learned people in charge when they are younger, because they really know what is going on.

I said they're all senile? Is that what I said?

I probably shouldn't have chosen the word "senility" since it has such a negative connotation. I was using the word to refer to the effects of old age.

[I.J. Reilly]

I said they're all senile? Is that what I said?

I probably shouldn't have chosen the word "senility" since it has such a negative connotation. I was using the word to refer to the effects of old age.

Your word choice as of late has not really been the best.

[kccougar]

Your word choice as of late has not really been the best.

It goes beyond word choice.

[jay santos]

There's no doubt senility plays a part in most people as they age. They have a more difficult time seeing logical reasoning. They have a more difficult time thinking outside of a prescribed notion ("out of the box"). It hits some people as early as 60 but it hits most everyone. GBH seems to be an exception. That guy was sharp as a tack to the end. You can see some of the brethren start to lose it over the years.

Monson started about 8 years ago.
Nelson's losing it fast right now.
Haight obviously had it rough his last 10 years or so.
Oaks I don't notice it yet.
Packer started slowly about 10 years ago. He gave an extemporaneous talk broadcasted to stake conference a couple years ago where I was shocked. He was stumbling around and barely coherent.

[SoonerCoug]

There's no doubt senility plays a part in most people as they age. They have a more difficult time seeing logical reasoning. They have a more difficult time thinking outside of a prescribed notion ("out of the box"). It hits some people as early as 60 but it hits most everyone. GBH seems to be an exception. That guy was sharp as a tack to the end. You can see some of the brethren start to lose it over the years.

Monson started about 8 years ago.
Nelson's losing it fast right now.
Haight obviously had it rough his last 10 years or so.
Oaks I don't notice it yet.
Packer started slowly about 10 years ago. He gave an extemporaneous talk broadcasted to stake conference a couple years ago where I was shocked. He was stumbling around and barely coherent.

Right. These are great men in so many ways, but it's very difficult to stay sharp when you're 80 or 90 years old.

[TripletDaddy]

This seems like a disingenuous poll.

You are not really asking what your purport to be asking. What is the great mystery in asking whether advanced old age affects one's ability to speak, judgment, etc? You are highly educated. Obviously as well get older (as a general rule) our capacities diminish. Being a Church leader is no exception. Church members, church leaders, non-members.....everyone succumbs to age.

How about a poll asking whether being an infant has any affect on the ability to express oneself?

What is it that you are really trying to say here? I guess I don't see the point.

[SoonerCoug]

This seems like a disingenuous poll.

You are not really asking what your purport to be asking. What is the great mystery in asking whether advanced old age affects one's ability to speak, judgment, etc? You are highly educated. Obviously as well get older (as a general rule) our capacities diminish. Being a Church leader is no exception. Church members, church leaders, non-members.....everyone succumbs to age.

How about a poll asking whether being an infant has any affect on the ability to express oneself?

What is it that you are really trying to say here? I guess I don't see the point.

It may seem obvious to you that old age affects people, but I think some members of the Church idealize their leaders to the extreme. While they might admit the susceptibility of leaders to physical ailments, I think some Mormons actually believe that mental capacity is somehow protected.

[byu71]

It may seem obvious to you that old age affects people, but I think some members of the Church idealize their leaders to the extreme. While they might admit the susceptibility of leaders to physical ailments, I think some Mormons actually believe that mental capacity is somehow protected.

You probably should have asked if old age affects them in negative ways more than positive ways.

Or maybe you could have asked a question getting to I guess your point. Do you blieve that leaders mental capacity is somehow protected.

Or, how about. Are the bulk of church members stupid enough to think everything a leader says comes directly from God as if God himself said it.

[TripletDaddy]

It may seem obvious to you that old age affects people, but I think some members of the Church idealize their leaders to the extreme. While they might admit the susceptibility of leaders to physical ailments, I think some Mormons actually believe that mental capacity is somehow protected.

The results of your poll do not support your hypothesis.

However, it still seems like you are not really asking what you purport to be asking. At the root of it, you are asking about infallibility.

[SeattleUte]

The results of your poll do not support your hypothesis.

However, it still seems like you are not really asking what you purport to be asking. At the root of it, you are asking about infallibility.

This board is not a cross section of LDS rank and file (duh).

The problem is less senility than insularity, being out of step with contemproary mores, infexible, and hidebound. A few village elders is a good thing. But you need to mix it up with younger perspectives.