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What are the pros/cons of whole packers vs. flats? I have seen websites pushing both. How would your instructions change for a flat only?"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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Do you guys trim the point from the flat like this:
http://www.charcoalstore.com/kb/article.php?id=024
Or just everything together in one big piece?"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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I leave it in one piece.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostDo you guys trim the point from the flat like this:
http://www.charcoalstore.com/kb/article.php?id=024
Or just everything together in one big piece?A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali
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That's what I am going to do.Originally posted by CJF View PostI leave it in one piece.
I found an outstanding set of detailed instructions here:
http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/brisketselect.html"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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I used that very same article to prepare for my first brisket. Very helpful. I still go back and read it once in a while.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostThat's what I am going to do.
I found an outstanding set of detailed instructions here:
http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/brisketselect.html
I use this site for a casual reading often. Lots of good info there for lots of different BBQ. They really know their meat.Last edited by CJF; 12-08-2011, 07:16 PM.A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali
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I didn't see this. I've done both and really, the main difference was cooking time. I trimmed, rubbed, and cooked the exact same way. The only difference for me was time.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostWhat are the pros/cons of whole packers vs. flats? I have seen websites pushing both. How would your instructions change for a flat only?A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali
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I am having a heck of a time finding a decent size brisket. Costco, Harmons, Maceys all sell flats only, and the biggest one I could find was 4.5 lbs. Most were 3-4 lbs. Will keep searching tomorrow. Costco guy says that none of the Utah Costco stores sell packers anymore. Just flats."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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Find a butcher. I use Don's Meat in Clearfield. I'm sure there are several good butchers in the UC.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostI am having a heck of a time finding a decent size brisket. Costco, Harmons, Maceys all sell flats only, and the biggest one I could find was 4.5 lbs. Most were 3-4 lbs. Will keep searching tomorrow. Costco guy says that none of the Utah Costco stores sell packers anymore. Just flats.A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali
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Another excellent link. Thanks."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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Calling Springville Meat Co. in the morning. They haven't failed me yet.Originally posted by CJF View PostFind a butcher. I use Don's Meat in Clearfield. I'm sure there are several good butchers in the UC."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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My wife is on bed rest right now. I try to give her a 2 to 3 hour break from the boy and me every day. If they don't have something I've got plenty of time to bring one down to you.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostCalling Springville Meat Co. in the morning. They haven't failed me yet.A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostWhat are the pros/cons of whole packers vs. flats? I have seen websites pushing both. How would your instructions change for a flat only?I'm not sure of the pros and cons, but I'd imagine that separating the two would make the brisket easier to smoke as you make it more uniform in thickness. The tip (maybe last 2-3 inches) of my flat can get dried out but I usually wouldn't serve it sliced anyway. I will typically chop it up and use it in a chopped beef sandwich with BBQ sauce.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostDo you guys trim the point from the flat like this:
http://www.charcoalstore.com/kb/article.php?id=024
Or just everything together in one big piece?
I will typically trim quite a bit of fat between the two but I ultimately leave the flat and point together. I've never tried separating them but maybe one time I'll try it. I just think it would come out more moist and tender having them together as it would take longer to come to temp thus allowing the connective tissue and fat a longer time to "melt", but I honestly have no idea.
I obviously separate them after cooking so I can carve them up nicely since the grain of hte point usually runs perpendicular to that of the flat.
Come to Texas, we only sell decent sized briskets (you already know this obviously). I think I once cooked a 13lber that MJ found at HEB on sale for $.99 per lb. The costco here sells both flats and packers.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostI am having a heck of a time finding a decent size brisket. Costco, Harmons, Maceys all sell flats only, and the biggest one I could find was 4.5 lbs. Most were 3-4 lbs. Will keep searching tomorrow. Costco guy says that none of the Utah Costco stores sell packers anymore. Just flats."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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I am going to leave them in one piece. I plan to cook over a very long period. Low and slow.Originally posted by Moliere View PostI'm not sure of the pros and cons, but I'd imagine that separating the two would make the brisket easier to smoke as you make it more uniform in thickness. The tip (maybe last 2-3 inches) of my flat can get dried out but I usually wouldn't serve it sliced anyway. I will typically chop it up and use it in a chopped beef sandwich with BBQ sauce.
I will typically trim quite a bit of fat between the two but I ultimately leave the flat and point together. I've never tried separating them but maybe one time I'll try it. I just think it would come out more moist and tender having them together as it would take longer to come to temp thus allowing the connective tissue and fat a longer time to "melt", but I honestly have no idea.
I obviously separate them after cooking so I can carve them up nicely since the grain of hte point usually runs perpendicular to that of the flat.
Originally posted by Moliere View PostCome to Texas, we only sell decent sized briskets (you already know this obviously). I think I once cooked a 13lber that MJ found at HEB on sale for $.99 per lb. The costco here sells both flats and packers.
You forgot to mention how warm it is in Houston right now."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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As noted in this thread, there are some fantastic websites out there with very detailed information, including notes, instructions, links, etc. Then the Food Network has several like this:
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/b...ipe/index.html
Uh... Gee thanks."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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There is an entire website practically dedicated to crappy food network recipies like that one. A couple of my favorites:Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostAs noted in this thread, there are some fantastic websites out there with very detailed information, including notes, instructions, links, etc. Then the Food Network has several like this:
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/b...ipe/index.html
Uh... Gee thanks.

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