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  • LA Ute
    Receiver of Memory
    • Nov 2008
    • 19512

    #1

    "Public Enemies"

    I saw it yesterday with my son. First off, I don't get the "R" rating. No "F" word, no sex, no nudity. Plenty of violence, but mainly shoot-em-up stuff that was about a 3 on a scale of 10, with "Saving Private Ryan" or "The Passion" as 10.

    Great acting by both Christian Bale and Johnny Depp. Depp actually got me to care about the John Dillinger character - only a little, but given Dillinger's nature, that's an achievement. Also, even though we all know how the story will end, there are several truly suspenseful moments. You can feel the tension the FBI agents and their quarry are feeling.

    All in all, a great movie. Terrific summer entertainment to boot.
    “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
    ― W.H. Auden


    "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
    -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery
  • Viking
    Banned
    • Jun 2009
    • 6470

    #2
    Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
    I saw it yesterday with my son. First off, I don't get the "R" rating. No "F" word, no sex, no nudity. Plenty of violence, but mainly shoot-em-up stuff that was about a 3 on a scale of 10, with "Saving Private Ryan" or "The Passion" as 10.

    Great acting by both Christian Bale and Johnny Depp. Depp actually got me to care about the John Dillinger character - only a little, but given Dillinger's nature, that's an achievement. Also, even though we all know how the story will end, there are several truly suspenseful moments. You can feel the tension the FBI agents and their quarry are feeling.

    All in all, a great movie. Terrific summer entertainment to boot.
    Acting was exceptional. I thought the script was weak and a little disjointed.

    Depp is a very underrated actor and kept it bearable for me.

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    • I.J. Reilly
      Nobody's Fool
      • Apr 2009
      • 2949

      #3
      I saw it. I was really distracted by others in the theatre (I hate going to Provo and running into all of these people I half know in the most random of places) and could never really get into the movie. Of course, that is not a critique of the movie itself, just something that affected my viewing of the movie.

      On the movie itself, I was really underwhelmed. I had read some good reviews before going but it didn't live up to what I thought it would be. The relationship between Dillinger and Billie seemed underdeveloped. There were way too many characters than could be properly maintained and the locations always seemed to be disjointed to me (where is he again?). The movie at times seemed to want to be a tragic love story, at other times it wanted to be a shoot-em-up and it never decided which way it wanted to go.

      Overall, a 6/10 on the strength of Depp and some nice cinematography.

      Also, this movie reminded me how much I dislike Christian (Santa Fe) Bale.

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      • SoonerCoug
        Joycelyn Elders Supporter
        • Nov 2008
        • 4680

        #4
        I thought it was an OK movie. Depp was good. The story was interesting, but from what I've read about Dillinger's robberies, the movie would have been better off being more true to history. Apparently Dillinger once robbed a bank by having his gang dress up as a film crew and act like they were shooting a movie. This and other interesting stories were completely omitted from the film. I don't think the film portrayed Dillinger's ingenuity adequately.
        That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

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        • Donuthole
          Official Outgayer
          • Nov 2008
          • 25231

          #5
          Originally posted by I.J. Reilly View Post
          I saw it. I was really distracted by others in the theatre (I hate going to Provo and running into all of these people I half know in the most random of places) and could never really get into the movie. Of course, that is not a critique of the movie itself, just something that affected my viewing of the movie.

          On the movie itself, I was really underwhelmed. I had read some good reviews before going but it didn't live up to what I thought it would be. The relationship between Dillinger and Billie seemed underdeveloped. There were way too many characters than could be properly maintained and the locations always seemed to be disjointed to me (where is he again?). The movie at times seemed to want to be a tragic love story, at other times it wanted to be a shoot-em-up and it never decided which way it wanted to go.

          Overall, a 6/10 on the strength of Depp and some nice cinematography.

          Also, this movie reminded me how much I dislike Christian (Santa Fe) Bale.
          Finally got around to seeing it this weekend, and I endorse this post whole-heartedly. Too many characters, too much jumping from place to place, and either too much or too little time put into the romantic plot, depending on what the movie was trying to convey.
          Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

          There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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          • Art Vandelay
            Striving for mediocrity
            • Jul 2009
            • 10516

            #6
            Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
            I saw it yesterday with my son. First off, I don't get the "R" rating. No "F" word, no sex, no nudity. Plenty of violence, but mainly shoot-em-up stuff that was about a 3 on a scale of 10, with "Saving Private Ryan" or "The Passion" as 10.

            Great acting by both Christian Bale and Johnny Depp. Depp actually got me to care about the John Dillinger character - only a little, but given Dillinger's nature, that's an achievement. Also, even though we all know how the story will end, there are several truly suspenseful moments. You can feel the tension the FBI agents and their quarry are feeling.

            All in all, a great movie. Terrific summer entertainment to boot.
            First I find out that former bishop PAC (or is it really ex-bishop?!?) occasionally tastes of the fruit from the MPAA tree, now I learn Westley also ventures into the forbidden forest.

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            • LA Ute
              Receiver of Memory
              • Nov 2008
              • 19512

              #7
              Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
              First I find out that former bishop PAC (or is it really ex-bishop?!?) occasionally tastes of the fruit from the MPAA tree, now I learn Westley also ventures into the forbidden forest.
              My approach is to see carefully-chosen movies rated "R" for violence only. After "The Hurt Locker" I am beginning to re-visit that policy.
              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
              ― W.H. Auden


              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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              • TripletDaddy
                sweet triple
                • Nov 2008
                • 58186

                #8
                Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                My approach is to see carefully-chosen movies rated "R" for violence only.
                lol.

                I choose to see movies that contain sex, but only if the sex occurs between married people or people that are genuinely committed to each other.
                Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                • Art Vandelay
                  Striving for mediocrity
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 10516

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                  My approach is to see carefully-chosen movies rated "R" for violence only. After "The Hurt Locker" I am beginning to re-visit that policy.
                  I was just busting your chops a little bit. I don't think it is that big of deal. I try and avoid most R-type movies or TV myself and emphasize it to the youth, but for adults it ranks around caffeinated soda on my worry list, which is very low.

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                  • LA Ute
                    Receiver of Memory
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 19512

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                    lol.

                    I choose to see movies that contain sex, but only if the sex occurs between married people or people that are genuinely committed to each other.
                    Says the board's professor of knee-jerk mockery and pop culture, who has seen no end of gratuitously violent, gory, sex-laden horror movies . . . .
                    “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                    ― W.H. Auden


                    "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                    -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                    • YOhio
                      Hipster Mode
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 26165

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                      Says the board's professor of knee-jerk mockery and pop culture, who has seen no end of gratuitously violent, gory, sex-laden horror movies . . . .
                      Alma taught Corianton that murder is worse than illicit sex. I have modified my movie viewing habits accordingly.

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                      • TripletDaddy
                        sweet triple
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 58186

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                        Says the board's professor of knee-jerk mockery and pop culture, who has seen no end of gratuitously violent, gory, sex-laden horror movies . . . .
                        Knee-jerk?

                        My mockery is calculated.
                        Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                        • LA Ute
                          Receiver of Memory
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19512

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                          Knee-jerk?

                          My mockery is calculated.
                          I'd call that an admission against interest.
                          “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                          ― W.H. Auden


                          "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                          -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                          "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                          --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                          • FN Phat
                            I ♥ gateway sex
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 8691

                            #14
                            Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                            Alma taught Corianton that murder is worse than illicit sex. I have modified my movie viewing habits accordingly.
                            I'm your huckleberry.


                            "I love pulling the bone. Really though, what guy doesn't?" - CJF

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                            • LA Ute
                              Receiver of Memory
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19512

                              #15
                              Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                              Alma taught Corianton that murder is worse than illicit sex. I have modified my movie viewing habits accordingly.
                              But where do you find movies about warthog sex? The Discovery Channel?

                              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                              ― W.H. Auden


                              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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