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  • TripletDaddy
    sweet triple
    • Nov 2008
    • 58186

    #1

    Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien

    Did anyone else watch? We flew home last night from our SLC trip and I rushed home to see the premiere. I forgot to DVR it. I love The Tonight Show and was really interested to see how this one was going to go.

    In truth, I love late night shows because I enjoy watching the monologues. I will tivo them and watch them, skipping the guest interviews almost entirely. Great monologues are peppered with fast topical anecdotes, one-liners, and political humor. I have seen great ones and some really awful ones.

    Leno was at home doing the monologue. Letterman's monologues have improved over time. You can compare the late night monologue skills with those of really polished guys like Carlin, Seinfeld, or Robin Williams. And of course, the master....Lenny.

    Truthfully, Conan's monologues have always been horrible. He isn't a stand-up comic, which is why he doesn't project well. He seems to lack confidence, he is always over-acting, his affectations annoy me, and he isn't focused. So I was really wondering whether he would basically destroy the Tonight Show.

    A few thoughts:

    The set: what an amazing set. An art-deco masterpiece. Looks awesome. They did a really nice job. Also, it is nice to see The Tonight Show command such a massive sound stage, as opposed to those tiny closets they use for filming in NYC.

    The intro credits: I liked the approach they took. The intro for Conan's old show was literally an animated cartoon. This intro is a wonderful montage of old and new Hollywood, with nods to more offbeat stuff like the Cinerama Dome and

    The hook: I really liked how Conan did the transition. Very clever having him run across the country to get to LA and for whatever reason, Cheap Trick's Surrender wound up being a perfect choice for accompaniment. The Wrigley Field bit was priceless stuff and showed a great effort to plan on the part of his writers. This was obviously something they have had in the works for awhile. I wold have had Conan run past a few more recognizable monuments (Rushmore, Grand Canyon, etc...also, was that Utah red rock?) but overall, that was a really cool way to bridge the gap between the NY and LA shows. I have watched it twice already this morning. For those that did not see it, you can check it out here:

    http://www.thetonightshowwithconanobrien.com/

    The monologue: Unfortunately, Conan lived down to expectations. I can't stand his delivery. His timing...everything seems very sophomoric. At one point, he resorted to his silly dancing, physical humor stuff that I find off-putting. I am really hoping that he improves this section of the show over time. It would be enough to make me stop watching, although I surmise that plenty of others will tune in. He has brought his entire band and his announcer, yet he has said that he doesn't want Tonight to be a Late Night retread. If he is serious about changing things up, he needs to start with his monologue.

    Overall, I really enjoy Conan. He is funny. And he has potential to be the host for a LONG time. Now that he is in LA, he has a literal endless supply of guests. His challenge will not be to book his show. It will be to see what he does with the intro. The first 25 minutes of the show. I just hope he can change things up a bit and ditch some of the stuff that is funny when you are in 17 or 18. Leave that to Jimmy Fallon. That is his job, now.
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  • MarkGrace
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    • Dec 2008
    • 31546

    #2
    Funny...I always skip the monologues and come back for the interviews or music.
    So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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    • DrumNFeather
      Invisible Swordsman
      • Nov 2008
      • 8854

      #3
      I watched the intro this morning on DVR...haven't made it to the monologue yet. I'm willing to give it a shot though.
      "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

      Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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      • TripletDaddy
        sweet triple
        • Nov 2008
        • 58186

        #4
        Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
        Funny...I always skip the monologues and come back for the interviews or music.
        I do the music, too, if the guest is good.

        I don't care much for the interviews.
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        • RC Vikings
          Known Heterosexual
          • Nov 2008
          • 8789

          #5
          I've never thought Conon delivered a very good monologue but I really enjoyed his skits.

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          • scottie
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 5247

            #6
            Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
            I've never thought Conon delivered a very good monologue but I really enjoyed his skits.
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            • Color Me Badd Fan
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 12519

              #7
              Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
              I've never thought Conon delivered a very good monologue but I really enjoyed his skits.
              Conan's skits are the best and far exceeds anything from Letterman or Leno. Triumph, In the Year 2000, If They Mated are always reliable. He did a fake Full House intro with Bob Saget a couple years ago when he did the show in San Francisco for a week, it was hilarious.

              His monologue isn't the greatest, but he also seems to do well in the interviews. I admittedly haven't watched Leno much since, well, ever and Letterman has kind of diminished though I've still watched him at times.
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              • beefytee
                Board eye candy
                • Mar 2009
                • 7542

                #8
                Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                I just hope he can change things up a bit and ditch some of the stuff that is funny when you are in 17 or 18. Leave that to Jimmy Fallon. That is his job, now.
                I've turned Jimmy Fallon on for a few minutes at a time.

                It is horrible. Him monologues are bad. He is not very good at reading the cue cards/teleprompter and he is not very comfortable (looks nervously and awkward). I thought SNL would have got him better with the cue cards.

                His writers are also pretty bad. Not very funny stuff there. I'm surprised his ratings have been so high....Maybe I'm just getting old.

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                • DrumNFeather
                  Invisible Swordsman
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 8854

                  #9
                  Originally posted by beefytee View Post
                  I've turned Jimmy Fallon on for a few minutes at a time.

                  It is horrible. Him monologues are bad. He is not very good at reading the cue cards/teleprompter and he is not very comfortable (looks nervously and awkward). I thought SNL would have got him better with the cue cards.

                  His writers are also pretty bad. Not very funny stuff there. I'm surprised his ratings have been so high....Maybe I'm just getting old.
                  The best part about Fallon is his house band, The Roots. They are money.
                  "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                  Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                  • Surfah
                    Where's Wallace?
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 33726

                    #10
                    Originally posted by beefytee View Post
                    I've turned Jimmy Fallon on for a few minutes at a time.

                    It is horrible. Him monologues are bad. He is not very good at reading the cue cards/teleprompter and he is not very comfortable (looks nervously and awkward). I thought SNL would have got him better with the cue cards.

                    His writers are also pretty bad. Not very funny stuff there. I'm surprised his ratings have been so high....Maybe I'm just getting old.
                    He was bad on SNL. He rarely made it through a skit without busting up laughing. Part of that is what made him endearing if not annoying.
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                    • Indy Coug
                      Heartless Bastard
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 18747

                      #11
                      Conan is naturally funnier than Leno, IMO. Leno obviously has worked very hard at his craft over the years, but he just isn't as funny. This shows up with Conan's skits and his interviews, which are much more enjoyable than Jay's.

                      I will be watching Conan a lot more than I watched Jay (which might have been twice a month).
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                      • TripletDaddy
                        sweet triple
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 58186

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                        Conan is naturally funnier than Leno, IMO. Leno obviously has worked very hard at his craft over the years, but he just isn't as funny. This shows up with Conan's skits and his interviews, which are much more enjoyable than Jay's.

                        I will be watching Conan a lot more than I watched Jay (which might have been twice a month).
                        This is my point. Conan is a writer. So his skits are funnier because they are entirely scripted, like a mini TV show. Leno is a performer, so his monologues are better. They are crisper. They have flow. The set-up and punchline are seamless. There isn't a lot of dead space in between.

                        I enjoy watching the monologues because I love watching how these people set up the punch line. It is all about the punch line.

                        You basically said exactly what I was saying....you don't watch Conan for the monologue. I agree with that.
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                        • creekster
                          It is NOT a monkey!
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 22661

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post

                          You basically said exactly what I was saying....you don't watch Conan for the monologue. I agree with that.
                          Of course he did. Eventually, we all agree with the majesty that is Triplet.
                          PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                          • TripletDaddy
                            sweet triple
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 58186

                            #14
                            Originally posted by creekster View Post
                            Of course he did. Eventually, we all agree with the majesty that is Triplet.
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                            • DU Ute
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                              • Dec 2008
                              • 7393

                              #15
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