Kick Ass' Hit Girl: Reassertion of Postmodern Feminism as a Theoretical Construct?

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  • Katy Lied
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 9435

    #1

    Kick Ass' Hit Girl: Reassertion of Postmodern Feminism as a Theoretical Construct?

    Postmodern feminism has long held that gender identification is due more to linguistic construct than any other cultural mechanism. As an 11 year old girl, Hit Girl confronts movie audiences with a seemingly innocent prepubescent female who displays behaviors not expected of a preteen in American society.

    The scene that everyone comments on is the one where Hit Girl wreaks havoc on a drug den, killing 8 men and 1 woman using a variety of methods. The brutal murders were not the shocking focal point of the scene though. Eyebrows were raised, however, with her use of the "c" word, long considered unkosher due to its ability to repulse movie audiences.

    Not only is Hit Girl's use of the C word jarring to hear given her supposed gender role in society, she also uses the term in reference to men, releasing the profanity from a culturally specific descriptive term, and transforming it to a generalist, non-gender specifc term of disdain. In utilizing the word this way, Hit Girl frees up the cuss word from its historical usage as a cultural more in defining gender.

    Hit Girl's role as a trained, brainwashed killer is not unique here; the filmmaker pay homage to other females in murderous roles, most specifically the Kill Bill series. The scene where Hit Girl is trapped behind the wet bar cabinet recalls a very similar scene in the classic movie "La Femme Nikita," whose very title contrasts a killer with the words traditionally used to define her gender. Again, postmodern feminist theory is reaffirmed.

    Our cultural identity so strongly stereotypes the role of a young girl in society that we cannot accept a killing machine with such a cherubic face; whenever Hit Girl wreaks her havok, she must be in disguise, a costume that covers her body and face and at time her eyes as well.

    The tearing down of our gender-assigned expectations of prepubescent female behavior all come to nought, however, as the highest compliment paid to Hit Girl by her nemesis the Mob Boss is "I wish you were my son." Thus, the highest goal that this girl can hope to attain is the role of a boy. Or is it? It is clear that when the Mob Boss wishes Hit Girl were his son, he is not thinking of his son as Red Mist is presently constituted, he is thinking of an idealized son capable of the most efficient and cold blooded murders possible. To that end, Hit Girl is on her way toward dismissing any linguistic constructs restricting her path toward killing excellence.

    How did I do?
  • Babs
    Not a Lawyer
    • Nov 2008
    • 17128

    #2
    pretty well! (I mean, you know, for a girl)

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    • PaloAltoCougar
      Semper infra dignitatem
      • Nov 2008
      • 16935

      #3
      Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
      How did I do?
      Well enough that I've added the movie to my cinematic "to do" list, something that several weeks ago I would have thought impossible.

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      • TripletDaddy
        sweet triple
        • Nov 2008
        • 58186

        #4
        In Trainspotting, guys were called that word a bunch of times.

        I'm not a fan of little kids being given these sort of lines. I didn't like it Jerry Maguire, either.
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        • creekster
          It is NOT a monkey!
          • Nov 2008
          • 22661

          #5
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          In Trainspotting, guys were called that word a bunch of times.

          I'm not a fan of little kids being given these sort of lines. I didn't like it Jerry Maguire, either.
          I am with you. I find KL's effort impressive because it legitimizes what is, in my mind, nothing more than a rather debasing stunt for a child. I think the analysis has much more value than the movie could possibly have. Once, in discussing a young woman who was an Olympic caliber swimmer, Kurt Vonnegut asked (through a character) what sort of a man turns his daughter into an outboard motor? Similarly, what sort of a parent turns his daughter into a paid spewer of profanity?
          PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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          • Green Lantern
            Has overcome great fear
            • Aug 2009
            • 2289

            #6
            I think what's also worth discussing is to what degree the character of Hit-Girl is sexualized as well, which in my mind is more disturbing than just her bad language. When she is shown taking down criminals on live television, one adolescent boy's immediate reaction is "I think I'm in love." When told that she looks to be about 11 years old his reply is "I'll wait." And then there's the fact that in one scene she's decked out in a Catholic schoolgirl outfit toting a big gun. This kind of fetishistic imagery may be something the filmmakers were courting more than the character's creators. I don't recall anything that "jail-baity" in the comic book.
            Kids in general these days seem more socially retarded...

            None of them date. They hang out. They text. They sit in the same car or room and don't say a word...they text. Then, they go home and whack off to internet porn.

            I think that's the sad truth about why these kids are retards.

            --Portland Ute

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            • TripletDaddy
              sweet triple
              • Nov 2008
              • 58186

              #7
              Originally posted by Green Lantern View Post
              I think what's also worth discussing is to what degree the character of Hit-Girl is sexualized as well, which in my mind is more disturbing than just her bad language. When she is shown taking down criminals on live television, one adolescent boy's immediate reaction is "I think I'm in love." When told that she looks to be about 11 years old his reply is "I'll wait." And then there's the fact that in one scene she's decked out in a Catholic schoolgirl outfit toting a big gun. This kind of fetishistic imagery may be something the filmmakers were courting more than the character's creators. I don't recall anything that "jail-baity" in the comic book.
              she sounds like a GoGo Yubari clone, down to the school girl outfit.
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              • Green Lantern
                Has overcome great fear
                • Aug 2009
                • 2289

                #8
                Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                she sounds like a GoGo Yubari clone, down to the school girl outfit.
                If you read much Mark Millar you'll quickly see that he's not one to think up a new idea when an existing one can fit nicely into his schtick. I say this as someone who has grown tired of Millar's writing but was still a fan of the movie.
                Kids in general these days seem more socially retarded...

                None of them date. They hang out. They text. They sit in the same car or room and don't say a word...they text. Then, they go home and whack off to internet porn.

                I think that's the sad truth about why these kids are retards.

                --Portland Ute

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                • Solon
                  Lost in the flood
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 5747

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                  Postmodern feminism has long held that gender identification is due more to linguistic construct than any other cultural mechanism. As an 11 year old girl, Hit Girl confronts movie audiences with a seemingly innocent prepubescent female who displays behaviors not expected of a preteen in American society.

                  The scene that everyone comments on is the one where Hit Girl wreaks havoc on a drug den, killing 8 men and 1 woman using a variety of methods. The brutal murders were not the shocking focal point of the scene though. Eyebrows were raised, however, with her use of the "c" word, long considered unkosher due to its ability to repulse movie audiences.

                  Not only is Hit Girl's use of the C word jarring to hear given her supposed gender role in society, she also uses the term in reference to men, releasing the profanity from a culturally specific descriptive term, and transforming it to a generalist, non-gender specifc term of disdain. In utilizing the word this way, Hit Girl frees up the cuss word from its historical usage as a cultural more in defining gender.

                  Hit Girl's role as a trained, brainwashed killer is not unique here; the filmmaker pay homage to other females in murderous roles, most specifically the Kill Bill series. The scene where Hit Girl is trapped behind the wet bar cabinet recalls a very similar scene in the classic movie "La Femme Nikita," whose very title contrasts a killer with the words traditionally used to define her gender. Again, postmodern feminist theory is reaffirmed.

                  Our cultural identity so strongly stereotypes the role of a young girl in society that we cannot accept a killing machine with such a cherubic face; whenever Hit Girl wreaks her havok, she must be in disguise, a costume that covers her body and face and at time her eyes as well.

                  The tearing down of our gender-assigned expectations of prepubescent female behavior all come to nought, however, as the highest compliment paid to Hit Girl by her nemesis the Mob Boss is "I wish you were my son." Thus, the highest goal that this girl can hope to attain is the role of a boy. Or is it? It is clear that when the Mob Boss wishes Hit Girl were his son, he is not thinking of his son as Red Mist is presently constituted, he is thinking of an idealized son capable of the most efficient and cold blooded murders possible. To that end, Hit Girl is on her way toward dismissing any linguistic constructs restricting her path toward killing excellence.

                  How did I do?
                  Very cool, KL. I think the bad guy's final words about a son are perfect for the bad-guy. He just doesn't get it.

                  To me, this movie was about heroes and anti-heroes, and all of the old stereotypes are turned topsy-turvy as it's impossible to peg just what makes a hero or an anti-hero. The age-old themes of life, death, justice, vengeance, and glory are still there and the heroes and villains are just familiar enough to get comfortable before you have to reevaluate everything you think you expect about what a hero is. Adults act like children; children act like adults; sexuality is nebulous and negotiable (kickass's alter-ego is mistaken for a gay teen; Red Mist is obviously gay); right and wrong are hard to distinguish. Certainly, Big Daddy is not a parent worth imitating - but he's a hell of a trainer. Is Kickass a hero? At the end of the movie you're not so sure.

                  I really liked this movie. I especially liked that the strongest hero-figure was a prepubescent girl. From Gilgamesh to Achilles to Samson to Roland to the Hero-Twins, we've never seen a hero quite like Hit-Girl.

                  I think I'm going to buy my little girl a purple wig.
                  "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
                  -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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                  • wuapinmon
                    Soul Plumber
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 30711

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post

                    How did I do?
                    I'll have to see the film first, but I'm resistant to these "taking back" movements in thought, mostly because I side with Steven Pinker in that you can broaden the signified of the signifier, but at its core, the new signifier still carries the taint of the original signified. Words are not thoughts; any cognitive scientist worth her salt doesn't believe that. There is still some Q that "c-nt" represented that will find a new expression. So, the attitudinal shift, to me, is more accomplished by the deed, than the word. I see no power in her calling men "c-nts," but the action of her slaying them, now that's power that the center respects; that's power that makes the center want the marginalized to be its offspring. That's very masculine of her.

                    The ideas you mention ultimately just show that women will have to resort to masculine displays of violence in order to achieve parity, but subverting the feminine at the same time in favor of the masculine, which would seem to fly in the face of the work it would appear they want to accomplish.

                    I don't think that violence is the feminist answer, rather, I think that the ever-increasing majority of college students being female will render women far more powerful than we can imagine in the next 100 years.
                    Last edited by wuapinmon; 04-29-2010, 11:44 AM.
                    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                    • DapperDan
                      Whut?
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 1132

                      #11
                      All I know is that every scene that featured Hit-Girl was pure gold.

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                      • Katy Lied
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 9435

                        #12
                        Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                        I'll have to see the film first, but I'm resistant to these "taking back" movements in thought, mostly because I side with Steven Pinker in that you can broaden the signified of the signifier, but at its core, the new signifier still carries the taint of the original signified. Words are not thoughts; any cognitive scientist worth her salt doesn't believe that. There is still some Q that "c-nt" represented that will find a new expression. So, the attitudinal shift, to me, is more accomplished by the deed, than the word. I see no power in her calling men "c-nts," but the action of her slaying them, now that's power that the center respects; that's power that makes the center want the marginalized to be its offspring. That's very masculine of her.

                        The ideas you mention ultimately just show that women will have to resort to masculine displays of violence in order to achieve parity, but subverting the feminine at the same time in favor of the masculine, which would seem to fly in the face of the work it would appear they want to accomplish.

                        I don't think that violence is the feminist answer, rather, I think that the ever-increasing majority of college students being female will render women far more powerful than we can imagine in the next 100 years.
                        I laughed at that last line that you edited out. I've been told, though, that my sense of humor is too much like Indy's to be indulged in polite society.

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                        • wuapinmon
                          Soul Plumber
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 30711

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                          I laughed at that last line that you edited out. I've been told, though, that my sense of humor is too much like Indy's to be indulged in polite society.
                          Apparently no one besides the Great Katy Lied got the large point of my now-edited post. The upset that it caused PROVES the point I was making my posting it.

                          That word can't be taken back.
                          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                          • beelzebabette
                            Golf & Cubs Disrespecter
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 2907

                            #14
                            Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                            Apparently no one besides the Great Katy Lied got the large point of my now-edited post. The upset that it caused PROVES the point I was making my posting it.

                            That word can't be taken back.
                            You should stick to Spanish, reggae & banana republics if you're trying to learn us up. IMHO.

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                            • wuapinmon
                              Soul Plumber
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 30711

                              #15
                              Originally posted by beelzebabette View Post
                              You should stick to Spanish, reggae & banana republics if you're trying to learn us up. IMHO.
                              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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