Paul's Boutique

[wuapinmon]

I just downloaded the 20th Anniversary Remastered album for my reggae class, and DAMN! This is such a good album. Still.

[MarkGrace]

I need a new copy. Haven't listened to it in ages.

[wuapinmon]

I need a new copy. Haven't listened to it in ages.

Maybe it's nostalgia talking, but it sounds as good right now as it did in 9th grade.

[Flystripper]

Maybe it's nostalgia talking, but it sounds as good right now as it did in 9th grade.

I still have it in cassette form...I got the red cassette tape version. Of course I have the CD too! The Paul's Boutique album is incredible and was way ahead of its time. So many samples.

[Flystripper]

Maybe it's nostalgia talking, but it sounds as good right now as it did in 9th grade.

it is not nostalgia the album is genius

[BigPiney]

My favorite BBoys album by far.

Ask for Janice.

[wuapinmon]

My favorite BBoys album by far.

Ask for Janice.

Man, you explain de muzhian. Dem knew it, but dem keyant do it.

[Commando]

I just downloaded the 20th Anniversary Remastered album for my reggae class, and DAMN! This is such a good album. Still.

uh... so does the school pay for that, b/c I'd call that misappropriation of funds.

[wuapinmon]

uh... so does the school pay for that, b/c I'd call that misappropriation of funds.

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And, it's Dr. wuapinmon to you from now on.

[Commando]

Duh. Every rapper samples reggae-- are you just demonstrating its ongoing influence?

What's the next purchase, Dr. Wuap? lemme guess...


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[wuapinmon]

Duh. Every rapper samples reggae-- are you just demonstrating its ongoing influence?

What's the next purchase, Dr. Wuap? lemme guess...


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Sure, I'll show that. But, Paul's Boutique is a landmark album, featuring the Dust Brothers; it is a masterpiece of sampling and has far more lasting power than Vanilla Ice or anyone else. These guys were the first ones to use such dense sampling, back before the Biz Markie court case that killed it without paying for it. So, while "every" rapper samples reggae, I thought I'd show them the original masters of the form (Dust Brothers with a debt to Grandmaster Flash).

I also am tackling the issue of why reggae is infinitely more popular with white American youth than black American youth. Finally, though I didn't get into it tonight, I'm going to draw parallals between the lyrics and message of the Beastie Boys album and the plot of the movie The Harder They Come whose soundtrack contains "Draw Your Brakes." Why does a movie about Jamaican street toughs and its soundtrack resonate with urban American youth, enough to be put into a song at the end of an album?

[Commando]

No need for the history lesson on Paul's Boutique. I know every lyric and sample on that album like Davy Crocket knows the trees in Tennessee. Besides, we had this discussion a month ago on the "current listening/reading" threads. I'm sure you own Odelay, and I think that album is the Dust Brothers' true masterpiece (while not a hip-hop record per se) whereon they demonstrated restraint and mastery over their Paul's Boutique beats. Also, there are a handful of beats on songs by Tone Loc and Young MC created by the Dust Brothers out of the same batch that went on Paul's Boutique that absolutely kick ass. Highly recommended.

However, I think there are two handfuls of rappers who owe quite a bit more of their sound to reggae than the Beasties (I actually think it's a stretch to include the b-boys in this discussion regardless of their incorporation of certain beats on Paul's... However, check Hello Nasty's "Dr. Lee, PhD" for their only true reggae cut.

As for the more relevant artists, off the top of my head: KRS-One, Run DMC (they had a song called "Roots, Rock, Reggae" for pete's sake), a Tribe Called Quest (Phife Dawg's latter-day alias was Mutty Ranks), and the rest of Native Tongues. Newer acts might include the Fugees, Busta Rhymes, and of course Queen Latifah and Naughty by Nature. And that's only including straight hip-hop artists, of course-- no dancehall or crossover. I would say Paul's Boutique is more a clinic of smoldering 70's funk and soul records seamlessly melded into the best collection of hip-hop beats and ambiance of the last 20 years.

As for the white boy phenomenon, I don't think anybody has as effectively used reggae influence like Bradley Nowell of Sublime. He really captured it in a meaningful way a lot of the time. 311 is the other end of the spectrum that has, in my opinion, unfortunately injected too much white into the mix.

[Surfah]

As for the white boy phenomenon, I don't think anybody has as effectively used reggae influence like Bradley Nowell of Sublime. He really captured it in a meaningful way a lot of the time. 311 is the other end of the spectrum that has, in my opinion, unfortunately injected too much white into the mix.

Amen. RIP Nowell.

[wuapinmon]

No need for the history lesson on Paul's Boutique. I know every lyric and sample on that album like Davy Crocket knows the trees in Tennessee. Besides, we had this discussion a month ago on the "current listening/reading" threads. I'm sure you own Odelay, and I think that album is the Dust Brothers' true masterpiece (while not a hip-hop record per se) whereon they demonstrated restraint and mastery over their Paul's Boutique beats. Also, there are a handful of beats on songs by Tone Loc and Young MC created by the Dust Brothers out of the same batch that went on Paul's Boutique that absolutely kick ass. Highly recommended.

However, I think there are two handfuls of rappers who owe quite a bit more of their sound to reggae than the Beasties (I actually think it's a stretch to include the b-boys in this discussion regardless of their incorporation of certain beats on Paul's... However, check Hello Nasty's "Dr. Lee, PhD" for their only true reggae cut.

As for the more relevant artists, off the top of my head: KRS-One, Run DMC (they had a song called "Roots, Rock, Reggae" for pete's sake), a Tribe Called Quest (Phife Dawg's latter-day alias was Mutty Ranks), and the rest of Native Tongues. Newer acts might include the Fugees, Busta Rhymes, and of course Queen Latifah and Naughty by Nature. And that's only including straight hip-hop artists, of course-- no dancehall or crossover. I would say Paul's Boutique is more a clinic of smoldering 70's funk and soul records seamlessly melded into the best collection of hip-hop beats and ambiance of the last 20 years.

As for the white boy phenomenon, I don't think anybody has as effectively used reggae influence like Bradley Nowell of Sublime. He really captured it in a meaningful way a lot of the time. 311 is the other end of the spectrum that has, in my opinion, unfortunately injected too much white into the mix.

Agreed.

Tonight's playlist:

1865 (96º In The Shade) Third World
The Harder They Come Jimmy Cliff
I Can See Clearly Now Johnny Nash
War Sinéad O'Connor
War Bob Marley
Curley Locks Junior Byles
Curly Locks Sinéad O'Connor
Sun Is Shining Bob Marley
Guava Jelly Bob Marley
Slave Driver Bob Marley
Concrete Jungle Bob Marley
Burnin' And Lootin' Bob Marley
Get Up Stand Up Bob Marley
Johnny Was Bob Marley
Time Will Tell Bob Marley
Jah Live Bob Marley
One Drop Bob Marley
Babylon System Bob Marley
Rastaman Live Up Bob Marley
Africa Unite Bob Marley
Visit 311
Do The Reggay Toots & The Maytals
54 46 That's My Number Toots & The Maytals
54 46 Was My Number Toots & The Maytals
54-46 Thats My Number/B&C Sublime
54-46 Keith Frank & The Soileau Zydeco Band
54 46 8:01 Ernest Ranglin
Pressure Drop Toots & The Maytals
Pressure Drop The Clash
Rivers of Babylon The Melodians
Rivers Of Babylon Sublime
I Shot The Sheriff Eric Clapton
Bob Marley & The Wailers I Shot The Sheriff
One Love/People Get Ready Bob Marley
Bob Marley - One Love Bob Marley
People Get Ready Ziggy Marley
Say it ain't so Weezer
Badfish Sublime
Trenchtown Rock Bob Marley
Trenchtown Rock Sublime
don't push Sublime
Purpose 311
Equal Rights Peter Tosh
Everybody Wants To Go To Heaven Kenny Chesney
Black Man Kingdom Come The Melodians
Waiting In Vain Bob Marley
Waitin' en vano Los Cafres
Stir It Up Bob Marley
Stir it up Los Cafres & Los Pericos
No One (Curtis Lynch Remix) Alicia Keys
Englishman In New York Sting
Jamaican In New York Shinehead
Full Up A Class Bunny General
Ketch Vampire Devon Irons
2 AM Slightly Stoopid
You Can Get It Jimmy Cliff
Draw Your Brakes Scotty
B-Boy Bouillabaisse: Beastie Boys

[wuapinmon]

As for the white boy phenomenon, I don't think anybody has as effectively used reggae influence like Bradley Nowell of Sublime. He really captured it in a meaningful way a lot of the time. 311 is the other end of the spectrum that has, in my opinion, unfortunately injected too much white into the mix.

At some point, Doug Martinez and Nick Hexum decided that they didn't want their songs to have choruses anymore. The band has sucked since Transistor.

40 ozs to Freedom is my second-most-favorite album of the 1990's, second only to Weezer's Pinkerton, and just ahead of On Avery Island (Neutral Milk Hotel).

So, yes, I will talk about Sublime, Pepper, 311, Slightly Stoopid, Jack Johnson, and Los cafres when I talk about white boy reggae. I'll also share that Bradley Nowell's death is the only celebrity death that has ever made me cry. Save me coming home to find mommy crying because someone had shot a beetle in New York. I was crying for her, not him.

But Nowell's death just tears me up inside.

When I talk about hip-hop, I'll get into KRS-One, B.I.G., Beastie Boys, Busta Rhymes (he, like Biggie, is Jamaican), and toasters like Cutty Ranks, Shabba Ranks, Pliers, Chaka Demus, and Eek A Mouse.

Our reading list includes:

Catch a Fire, Timothy White
Bob Marley, Lyrical Genius, Kwame Dawes
The Rastafari Reader, Temple UP
Negro With a Hat: The Life of Marcus Garvey
and The Holy Piby