I just reserved a new Ford Bronco

[falafel]

I can't see commuting long distances in one. And who knows what kind of mileage it will get. The base engine is supposed to be over 300 hp, and the optional engine over 400. It looks like Ford is putting turbo motors in everything from here on.

The base 4 cyl has 270hp w/ 310 lbs/ft torque. The v6 has 310 hp.

[Scott R Nelson]

Whoa. What color? OJ White?

I want a red one, but it's looking like the base model comes in white, silver, darker silver, or black. Yeah, white would be good of those four choices.

[Jeff Lebowski]

do you have 4 cyl or the I6 on your '07? It sounds like a pretty nice set up, tbh.

FWIW, I am not a huge fan of Apple Carplay and adding a stereo that will connect via CP and adding an incline meter is not a big deal. Wheel base and torque for pulling are obv an issue.

Those are just the first two random examples that came to mind. Believe me, lots of new features in the last 13 years - collision avoidance, adaptive cruise control, etc.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I want a red one, but it's looking like the base model comes in white, silver, darker silver, or black. Yeah, white would be good of those four choices.

Don't get a red one, Scott Nelson. Come on, man.

[Scott R Nelson]

Don't get a red one, Scott Nelson. Come on, man.

Every car that I have ever purchased new, if it came in red, I got red.

The first new car I ever bought had two reds, bright red and a darker metallic red. When negotiating with the dealer, I said I wanted a red one. When they asked me if they couldn't get red, what other color would work I answered "the other red".

What I don't want is a boring silver color.

[mtnbiker]

Those are just the first two random examples that came to mind. Believe me, lots of new features in the last 13 years - collision avoidance, adaptive cruise control, etc.

Collision avoidance and adaptive cruise control are irritating to me. I turn them off, and just pay attention to where I'm going. If you've got the vehicle mainly for offroad capabilities, why bother with those bells and whistles?

[Scott R Nelson]

Collision avoidance and adaptive cruise control are irritating to me. I turn them off, and just pay attention to where I'm going. If you've got the vehicle mainly for offroad capabilities, why bother with those bells and whistles?

I specifically DON'T want those features. They come in one of the packages that I will not get. I don't want the car doing ANYTHING automatically for me if I can get a newer car that way. I don't even want the car to lock the doors when I go over some speed.

I don't want keyless ignition either, but you can't buy Fords anymore without that feature.

[old_gregg]

Collision avoidance and adaptive cruise control are irritating to me. I turn them off, and just pay attention to where I'm going. If you've got the vehicle mainly for offroad capabilities, why bother with those bells and whistles?

adaptive cruise control is the best car feature in a very long time

[creekster]

Not a fan of CarPlay? WTH, man.


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Sorry. It’s fine sometimes. But on balance I prefer my car’s systems without it and like most things Apple it tries to take over too often and too much.

[creekster]

adaptive cruise control is the best car feature in a very long time

If executed well. I’ve used a few different versions and some are better than others. But if done well it is very useful in traffic. Not so sure it would be very helpful on a trail, however.

[Uncle Ted]

Sorry. It’s fine sometimes. But on balance I prefer my car’s systems without it and like most things Apple it tries to take over too often and too much.

I don’t see the problem.


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[Jeff Lebowski]

Collision avoidance and adaptive cruise control are irritating to me. I turn them off, and just pay attention to where I'm going. If you've got the vehicle mainly for offroad capabilities, why bother with those bells and whistles?

I specifically DON'T want those features. They come in one of the packages that I will not get. I don't want the car doing ANYTHING automatically for me if I can get a newer car that way. I don't even want the car to lock the doors when I go over some speed.

I don't want keyless ignition either, but you can't buy Fords anymore without that feature.

Sorry, but this makes zero sense. What on earth do you have against a feature that stops you right before you have a collision but otherwise does not impact your driving experience in any way?

Do you dismantle your ABS as well? What about traction control?

[creekster]

Sorry, but this makes zero sense. What on earth do you have against a feature that stops you right before you have a collision but otherwise does not impact your driving experience in any way?

Do you dismantle your ABS as well? What about traction control?

Collision avoidance is hard to argue with, IMO, although my wife/'s car sometimes dislikes pulling too far into the garage. But that occasional annoyance seems well worth the value of the system.

[Pelado]

Sorry, but this makes zero sense. What on earth do you have against a feature that stops you right before you have a collision but otherwise does not impact your driving experience in any way?

Do you dismantle your ABS as well? What about traction control?

He has a right, as an American, to have that collision. He doesn't need any overlords stopping him.

[Bo Diddley]

He has a right, as an American, to have that collision. He doesn't need any overlords stopping him.

Exactly. It sounds like Satan's plan.