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  • doctorcoug
    To Win is to Honor Him
    • Jun 2009
    • 2273

    #1

    HIPPA Should go, or be re-written

    I totally agree with this doctor.

    Maybe all docs should just write in their privacy statements that all of your medical information will be shared with any needed medical, nursing, and similar consultants.

    http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/06/patients-die-when-doctors-dont-talk-to-one-another.html
    "Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"

    "So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"
  • wuapinmon
    Soul Plumber
    • Dec 2008
    • 30711

    #2
    Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
    I totally agree with this doctor.

    Maybe all docs should just write in their privacy statements that all of your medical information will be shared with any needed medical, nursing, and similar consultants.

    http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/06/...e-another.html
    How many times has this affected you in your practice?
    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • doctorcoug
      To Win is to Honor Him
      • Jun 2009
      • 2273

      #3
      Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
      How many times has this affected you in your practice?
      Well, my practice is not really "my" practice, as I'm still in training.

      This affects me, at a min, every tuesday and friday, which are, oddly, the days my residency program does the "no-doc" call. No-doc are patients that come to the ER (or transfered) that don't have a doctor that admits to the hospital. They may well be deathly sick, but their doctor doesn't have privileges.

      Anyway, I find myself having to do lots of extra work because I don't have their records. I have to ask significantly more questions, and I'm never really certain that the info I get is accurate.

      So, twice a week, and every time a new patient establishes in clinic (everyday). For the specialists, this is almost every single patient, all day, every day.

      BTW, how is your MRSA? I noticed you had it previously. Sorry I underestimated you. The stars were just too aligned.
      "Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"

      "So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"

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      • CardiacCoug
        вот так штука
        • Nov 2008
        • 11013

        #4
        Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
        I totally agree with this doctor.

        Maybe all docs should just write in their privacy statements that all of your medical information will be shared with any needed medical, nursing, and similar consultants.

        http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/06/...e-another.html
        It's HIPAA (Not HIPPA).

        I'm in favor of a National Health Record -- if there is one thing that the government could invest in to improve health care, some type of universal, portable health information system would be invaluable.

        I read a news story about a woman in Utah who had anxiety attacks and ended up being scanned to rule out pulmonary embolism about 20 times at various ERs over the course of a few months. If doctors and nurses in the ERs would have had access to her prior history, the expense of these tests and radiation exposure for the poor lady could have been avoided.

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        • Tim
          Not Banned
          • Nov 2008
          • 4390

          #5
          Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
          BTW, how is your MRSA? I noticed you had it previously. Sorry I underestimated you. The stars were just too aligned.
          LOL!
          Visca Catalunya Lliure

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          • ERCougar
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 10978

            #6
            Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
            It's HIPAA (Not HIPPA).

            I'm in favor of a National Health Record -- if there is one thing that the government could invest in to improve health care, some type of universal, portable health information system would be invaluable.

            I read a news story about a woman in Utah who had anxiety attacks and ended up being scanned to rule out pulmonary embolism about 20 times at various ERs over the course of a few months. If doctors and nurses in the ERs would have had access to her prior history, the expense of these tests and radiation exposure for the poor lady could have been avoided.
            One of the advantages to having a monopoly like IHC in town is great records. On almost every patient I see, I have a complete history of their ECG's, labs, radiology reports, even clinic notes. And IHC actually has a really good system. This is nearly unheard of in emergency medicine.
            At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
            -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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            • wuapinmon
              Soul Plumber
              • Dec 2008
              • 30711

              #7
              Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
              It's HIPAA (Not HIPPA).

              I'm in favor of a National Health Record -- if there is one thing that the government could invest in to improve health care, some type of universal, portable health information system would be invaluable.

              I read a news story about a woman in Utah who had anxiety attacks and ended up being scanned to rule out pulmonary embolism about 20 times at various ERs over the course of a few months. If doctors and nurses in the ERs would have had access to her prior history, the expense of these tests and radiation exposure for the poor lady could have been avoided.
              I think this is an excellent idea....for the obvious reasons of patient care, and because it would make for a hassle-free world instead of having to ask surly-people-who-think-wearing-scrubs-makes-them-a-doctor for my records.
              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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              • doctorcoug
                To Win is to Honor Him
                • Jun 2009
                • 2273

                #8
                Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                It's HIPAA (Not HIPPA).

                I'm in favor of a National Health Record -- if there is one thing that the government could invest in to improve health care, some type of universal, portable health information system would be invaluable.
                This is one of the things the VA does right. I saw a pt in the midwest that was treated in an ER in the west that same week. I had access to the entire ER record.

                Vista has an open source version called OpenVista, but this doesn't give the record portability, I just mention it because docs spend $30K+ on their EMR.
                "Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"

                "So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"

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                • ERCougar
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10978

                  #9
                  Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                  I think this is an excellent idea....for the obvious reasons of patient care, and because it would make for a hassle-free world instead of having to ask surly-people-who-think-wearing-scrubs-makes-them-a-doctor for my records.
                  It's not the doctors (or the "surly-people-who-think-wearing-scrubs-makes-them-a-doctor") who oppose this. We would all LOVE to have this. It would also do wonders to stop drug seekers in the ER (and other places).
                  At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                  -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                  • CardiacCoug
                    вот так штука
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 11013

                    #10
                    Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
                    This is one of the things the VA does right. I saw a pt in the midwest that was treated in an ER in the west that same week. I had access to the entire ER record.

                    Vista has an open source version called OpenVista, but this doesn't give the record portability, I just mention it because docs spend $30K+ on their EMR.
                    I agree. The VA computer system was great even the last time I used it while in medical school in 2001.

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                    • doctorcoug
                      To Win is to Honor Him
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2273

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                      It's not the doctors (or the "surly-people-who-think-wearing-scrubs-makes-them-a-doctor") who oppose this. We would all LOVE to have this. It would also do wonders to stop drug seekers in the ER (and other places).
                      In my state, all physicians have access to a narcotic database. We can look up our patients during point of care to see where they are filling their narcotics (or, if they already have).

                      That has been a good aid in the war on drug seeking. Also, it helps you approach the ER patient with pain.
                      "Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"

                      "So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"

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                      • I.J. Reilly
                        Nobody's Fool
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 2949

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                        One of the advantages to having a monopoly like IHC in town is great records. On almost every patient I see, I have a complete history of their ECG's, labs, radiology reports, even clinic notes. And IHC actually has a really good system. This is nearly unheard of in emergency medicine.
                        Intermountain Healthcare actually got a huge shoutout in this article from the New Yorker.

                        My experiences with IHC (which are legion) have actually left me with a pretty positive experience overall. Even the simple act of keeping electronic records has been of great help and has expidited many otherwise time consuming tasks.

                        The article also mentions IHC's ability to deliver above average care for below average costs. If you get the time, I highly suggest reading this article.

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                        • Jarid in Cedar
                          CS Institutional Memory
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 13234

                          #13
                          Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
                          In my state, all physicians have access to a narcotic database. We can look up our patients during point of care to see where they are filling their narcotics (or, if they already have).

                          That has been a good aid in the war on drug seeking. Also, it helps you approach the ER patient with pain.
                          We have a database here as well, but the turnaround time is less than stellar
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                          • ERCougar
                            Junior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 10978

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                            We have a database here as well, but the turnaround time is less than stellar
                            Yeah, the last time I checked it was like 24 hours. That's useful.

                            I do think it's improved, but it was so ridiculous last time that I haven't even bothered to check.
                            At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                            -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                            • Danimal
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 387

                              #15
                              The VA medical record system is amazing. I can see every note a patient has ever had entered into their medical record from any VA facility. This includes medications, reports, progress notes, etc. It's second to none.

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