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You're in academia, so none of society's rules regarding appearance apply to you. Not to mention your engineer status.Last edited by LA Ute; 04-20-2012, 03:24 PM.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Oh, Mitt! Blue on blue? That's one denim jacket away from being a Canadian Tuxedo!Originally posted by YOhio View PostLAU was all over twitter today whining about the horrors of casual Friday. I guess he's afraid everyone will start going to work dressed like this:
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He quoted a Peggy Noonan article that tied the GSA and secret services scandals to casual Friday. I lol'd at him.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostIt isn't due to casual dress. It is due to outdated mindsets.
What does a young lawyer look like? Obviously they look like the kids walking around your office. In casual dress.
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The rest of the Peggy Noonan quote that impelled YO to come after me:
In any presidential party, the Secret Service guys are the ones who are mature, who you can count on, who'll keep their heads. They have judgment, they're by the book unless they have to rewrite it on a second's notice. And they wore suits, like adults.
This week I saw a picture of agents in Colombia. They were in T-shirts, wrinkled khakis and sneakers. They looked like a bunch of mooks, like slobs, like children with muscles.
Special thanks to the person who invented casual Friday. Now it's casual everyday in America. But when you lower standards people don't decide to give you more, they give you less.
Last edited by LA Ute; 04-20-2012, 03:56 PM.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Are you aware that lawyers are pretty much the only people left in America that have to wear suits to work? And it makes you seem even more pompous (if that's possible)."It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."
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I am wearing black wrangler jeans and a blue striped shirt right now. Am I now more or less pompous?Originally posted by FMCoug View PostAre you aware that lawyers are pretty much the only people left in America that have to wear suits to work? And it makes you seem even more pompous (if that's possible).PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Depends on the jeans and shirt. Post a photo and we can put it to vote.Originally posted by creekster View PostI am wearing black wrangler jeans and a blue striped shirt right now. Am I now more or less pompous?"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Probably less. But it's a good thing you don't work at LAU's firm. You'd be mistaken for a mailroom clerk.Originally posted by creekster View PostI am wearing black wrangler jeans and a blue striped shirt right now. Am I now more or less pompous?
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2"It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."
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Almost no lawyers (including me) wear coats and ties to work anymore, unless they have a court appearance or a meeting that calls for a coat and tie or maybe even a suit and tie. I like business casual dress and usually the dressiest I am is slacks, an open collar shirt, and a blazer.Originally posted by FMCoug View PostAre you aware that lawyers are pretty much the only people left in America that have to wear suits to work? And it makes you seem even more pompous (if that's possible).
To me the key is to give the impression that you care about your appearance in the workplace. It's a measure of your respect for the people you are with. The move to a more casual standard has resulted in a lot of goofiness, and every company that has adopted a casual dress policy will tell you they've had a problem with some people going too far with it. (Ill-advised Spandex, for example.) There still have to be some standards, and employers have had to figure that out.
So I say to everyone I work with: Press your shirts, shine your shoes, wash your jeans (if you must wear them to work). Pay some attention to choosing colors that actually appear in nature -
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In other words, look like you take your work seriously and respect the people you will spend the day with.
Now, that's not asking too much, is it?“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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