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This could account for probably tens of students at BYU. I never met a single person where this was the case.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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I agree. If he had just been accepted to both I could see it, but turning down a full ride to MIT? Wasn't this kid in the Daily Herald or the Daily Universe when he turned down MIT?Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostSure. You can end up with a fine career starting out at BYU. And anyone smart enough to be offered a full-ride at MIT is probably going to succeed no matter what.
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How many schools are larger than BYU? How many schools have BYU's entrance requirements combined with BYU's size? Off the top of my head, only Texas, Minnesota and Wisconsin may compare favorably.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostI assume you are aware that BYU is #1 in the nation (maybe #2) in terms of # of grads admitted to med school? Similar numbers for Ph.D. programs.
BYU of course will beat a school like ASU which is filled with a bunch of morons.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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I can't comment on that, as I didn't go to the U, nor did my parents pay for my education.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostDon't know. Admittedly, I am sure that percentage is dramatically higher than it would be for Utah, as I am unaware of any parents that would pay only for a U of U education.
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I was being facetious. Honest.Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostThis could account for probably tens of students at BYU. I never met a single person where this was the case.
I personally know 4 people that I grew up with where this was the case. Two of them were siblings. The three sets of parents were uber-mullah Mormon types. Of the 4, three of them would have gone to BYU anyway, but one only went because his parents paid, which was one of the siblings who were there."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
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That's not a bad point.Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostIn some respects, BYU is one of the worst places to go if you want to go to med school. It's not because it's a bad school, I think BYU is an excellent undergrad institution. It's just that you have an extremely bright and competitive student body that have to fight like cats and dogs for an A in Organic Chemistry and the school's reputation with many med schools isn't commensurate with the effort that has to be put in to get decent grades. If I have a kid that wants to go to med school, I will not advise him or her to attend BYU.
BYU is really competitive and I think that is probably underappreciated when applying to med school.
The other thing I noticed is that if you are a superstar at BYU you can get great letters of recommendation. But with the very large classes, if you are just an "above average" student sitting in an organic chemistry class of 250 students, it is not easy to get good letters from professors.
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Michigan, Penn State, Berkeley, UCLA, Washington...Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostHow many schools are larger than BYU? How many schools have BYU's entrance requirements combined with BYU's size? Off the top of my head, only Texas, Minnesota and Wisconsin may compare favorably.
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It is based on raw numbers, so the size of the school certainly has something to do with it. But it kind of flies in the face of your argument that a BYU degree is a significant obstacle for someone planning on med school.Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostHow many schools are larger than BYU? How many schools have BYU's entrance requirements combined with BYU's size? Off the top of my head, only Texas, Minnesota and Wisconsin may compare favorably.
BYU of course will beat a school like ASU which is filled with a bunch of morons.
Here is a partial list of schools ranked by enrollment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_United_States_university_campuses_ by_enrollment
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Keep researching. I'm sure there are more.Originally posted by Babs View Post...USC, NYU, A&M...Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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The grad program was ranked #1 this year by the Public Accounting Report (it was #3 behind Texas and Illinois when I graduated). In fact, the only reason I went to BYU was because their program was so good otherwise I would have probably looked elsewhere.Originally posted by byu71 View PostMine was excellent. Of course by the time I got to BYU I was past all the mickey mouse stuff and was into my major. I took advanced scouting and how to make your wife honor and respect you for religion classes. The accounting department then and I hear now, was and is excellent. I still remember the prinicples of "cost accounting"."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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JeffLebowski, I seem to recall reading this somewhat recently (in the last year?). My recollection is that BYU was tops in placing kids in graduate programs across the board. Is this accurate or am I turning it into an urban legend?Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostI assume you are aware that BYU is #1 in the nation (maybe #2) in terms of # of grads admitted to med school? Similar numbers for Ph.D. programs.
Also, does anyone have a link to the original article? I don't remember where I read it but I know someone sent it to me in a chain email.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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I know you are being sarcastic but there is always some truth in all sarcasm. This is a phenonenom that occurs at almost all schools. The aTm grads I live with and work with are more gung ho about their kids going to aTm then BYU grads wanting their kids to go to BYU. In fact, I would love to have my kid go to UT since it is a premiere level school and they'd get instate tuition.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostWhat percentage of the kids attending BYU are there only because their parents won't pay for them to attend another school? Was that factored in as well?"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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In most cases this is accurate, but if you are coming out of a top tier business or law school, where you graduated from is a huge deal. That first position out of grad school can set you up for the rest of your life.Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostNow I realize that nobody cares about any of it -- it's all about what you can actually do.
If my kid had the opportunity to go to HBS over teh Marriott School, I'd push him/her towards HBS anyday. I'd rather him/her come out of grad school making $120K instead of $75K (I have no idea of actual numbers but know there is a big difference)."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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ha. I added the others because I figured TD would make a stink about the USC omission, and plus I wanted to try to squeak another Big 12 school in. I rather doubt A&M actually counts. I can look for more if you want, though.Originally posted by falafel View PostKeep researching. I'm sure there are more.
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