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  • SoCalCoug
    Ragnar Lodbrok Descendant
    • Nov 2008
    • 5214

    #1

    Just got back from an appellate argument

    Although I do appeals, this wasn't one of mine - it was a guy in my ward doing it without an attorney and I've been kind of guiding him through the process. I was in court on another matter and thought I'd walk over to the appellate court to give him a little moral support in his argument.

    One case went before his - a criminal appeal. The appellant's attorney (representing the criminal defendant) was Marcia Clark, the lead prosecutor on O.J. Simpson's murder trial. She was actually really good.

    It was funny - she was arguing ineffective assistance of counsel -that the defense attorney for the murder suspect failed to support one of his defenses, and she was ticking off some of the defenses that were brought up, but didn't work. She said, "Third party culpability, that was ridiculous. Jury nullification, that's illegal . . ." Then one of the judges interrupted her and said, "but sometimes effective, wouldn't you agree?" She kind of laughed and said, "I know very well jury nullification is sometimes effective."

    My little brush with history.
    If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

    "Somebody needs to kill my trial attorney." — Last words of George Harris, executed in Missouri on Sept. 13, 2000.

    "Nothing is too good to be true, nothing is too good to last, nothing is too wonderful to happen." - Florence Scoville Shinn
  • HuskyFreeNorthwest
    Time to camp
    • Nov 2008
    • 26082

    #2
    Now you need to have a case with Judge Ito.
    Get confident, stupid
    -landpoke

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    • kccougar
      9262
      • Nov 2008
      • 7020

      #3
      If we were at a party, this is the point at which I'd laugh politely to give the impression I got the joke.
      "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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      • SoCalCoug
        Ragnar Lodbrok Descendant
        • Nov 2008
        • 5214

        #4
        Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
        Now you need to have a case with Judge Ito.
        I represented his nephew in a case, if that works.

        I've had a couple of cases in front of Japanese judges, too.
        If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

        "Somebody needs to kill my trial attorney." — Last words of George Harris, executed in Missouri on Sept. 13, 2000.

        "Nothing is too good to be true, nothing is too good to last, nothing is too wonderful to happen." - Florence Scoville Shinn

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        • SoCalCoug
          Ragnar Lodbrok Descendant
          • Nov 2008
          • 5214

          #5
          Originally posted by kccougar View Post
          If we were at a party, this is the point at which I'd laugh politely to give the impression I got the joke.
          (Jury nullification is what got O.J. acquitted - essentially, the jury acquitted him despite the overwhelming evidence of his guilt)
          If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

          "Somebody needs to kill my trial attorney." — Last words of George Harris, executed in Missouri on Sept. 13, 2000.

          "Nothing is too good to be true, nothing is too good to last, nothing is too wonderful to happen." - Florence Scoville Shinn

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          • BigPiney
            Huge Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 12389

            #6
            Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
            I represented his nephew in a case, if that works.

            I've had a couple of cases in front of Japanese judges, too.
            Well, they all do look the same, so yeah, that works.

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            • TripletDaddy
              sweet triple
              • Nov 2008
              • 58186

              #7
              Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
              (Jury nullification is what got O.J. acquitted - essentially, the jury acquitted him despite the overwhelming evidence of his guilt)
              socalcoug with the rare all-parenthetical post (impressive).
              Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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              • SoCalCoug
                Ragnar Lodbrok Descendant
                • Nov 2008
                • 5214

                #8
                Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                socalcoug with the rare all-parenthetical post (impressive).
                (that's what she said.)
                If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

                "Somebody needs to kill my trial attorney." — Last words of George Harris, executed in Missouri on Sept. 13, 2000.

                "Nothing is too good to be true, nothing is too good to last, nothing is too wonderful to happen." - Florence Scoville Shinn

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                • wuapinmon
                  Soul Plumber
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 30711

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
                  (that's what she said.)
                  After or before you got married?
                  "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                  The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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