Apple Jan. 27 launch event... what will it be?

[Jeff Lebowski]

$550? Lol.

Remember this slogan? Good times.

[Shaka]

Wow those look nice. The thing about Apple products is user friendliness. I have an old ratty pair of Sonys at my desk at work so it is unlikely that I upgrade to these (and who knows if the sound is an upgrade or not) but I have been pleasantly surprised by headphones (like the Beats by Dre 3) made by apple that audio snobs say aren't worth it.

For the money they aren't worth it. In fact, they aren't worth it for half the money.

[BigFatMeanie]

I hope you all update to IOS 14.4 as soon as possible: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212146

Not sure if Apple's security is as real as it's vaunted to be.

[falafel]

I hope you all update to IOS 14.4 as soon as possible: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212146

Not sure if Apple's security is as real as it's vaunted to be.

I don’t understand. What’s wrong?

[BigFatMeanie]

I don’t understand. What’s wrong?

If you're not on 14.4 your phone is riddled with lots of publicly known vulnerabilities. The point being that iPhones are plenty vulnerable despite what lots of non-savvy folks (and businesses) think. Too many people think that using an iPhone makes them "safe" from issues and don't pay attention to security best practices, upgrades, etc.

"I can't get hacked because I have an iPhone. la la la."

[falafel]

If you're not on 14.4 your phone is riddled with lots of publicly known vulnerabilities. The point being that iPhones are plenty vulnerable despite what lots of non-savvy folks (and businesses) think. Too many people think that using an iPhone makes them "safe" from issues and don't pay attention to security best practices, upgrades, etc.

"I can't get hacked because I have an iPhone. la la la."

Gotcha. But 14.4 is 1000% unhackable, right?

[Uncle Ted]

If you're not on 14.4 your phone is riddled with lots of publicly known vulnerabilities. The point being that iPhones are plenty vulnerable despite what lots of non-savvy folks (and businesses) think. Too many people think that using an iPhone makes them "safe" from issues and don't pay attention to security best practices, upgrades, etc.

"I can't get hacked because I have an iPhone. la la la."

Yep, the webkit vulnerabilities are exceptionally bad.

WebKit
Available for: iPhone 6s and later, iPad Air 2 and later, iPad mini 4 and later, and iPod touch (7th generation)
Impact: A remote attacker may be able to cause arbitrary code execution. Apple is aware of a report that this issue may have been actively exploited.
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved restrictions.
CVE-2021-1871: an anonymous researcher
CVE-2021-1870: an anonymous researcher

[Uncle Ted]

The new AirTag is the Tile done right that takes advantage of a network of a billion devices...
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/21/appl...lled-base.html

Tile is worried... and they should be.

[Jeff Lebowski]

The new AirTag is the Tile done right that takes advantage of a network of a billion devices...
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/21/appl...lled-base.html

Tile is worried... and they should be.

That is very cool. Tempted to buy a couple but I don't really lose stuff, so ...

[Pelado]

So I'm thinking of getting an iPad for my wife. I didn't realize there are so many different versions now. Since I don't want to have to worry about another type of charging connection, I'm limiting the options to those with USB-C. The 11" Pro and the Air are at the top of the list.

I see the differences in processors like the M1 on the new Pro vs the A14 and A12 for some of the other models. The M1 seems to have a substantial performance advantage while the A14 looks best for battery conservation.

I'm not expecting that she'll need much storage space. There was one model - last year's Air, I think - that had just 64 GB. I don't want to go that low, so I was planning on 128 GB or higher.

What other differentiation between the iPad models should I be considering?

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[chrisrenrut]

So I'm thinking of getting an iPad for my wife. I didn't realize there are so many different versions now. Since I don't want to have to worry about another type of charging connection, I'm limiting the options to those with USB-C. The 11" Pro and the Air are at the top of the list.

I see the differences in processors like the M1 on the new Pro vs the A14 and A12 for some of the other models. The M1 seems to have a substantial performance advantage while the A14 looks best for battery conservation.

I'm not expecting that she'll need much storage space. There was one model - last year's Air, I think - that had just 64 GB. I don't want to go that low, so I was planning on 128 GB or higher.

What other differentiation between the iPad models should I be considering?

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What will it be used for. If it is just for browsing the internet and playing games, any of those processors will be fine. Although the M1 chip is the new hotness, it's probably overkill for casual ipad use. IF she is going to get into some stuff like photo or video editing, then a faster processor would be nice.

Apps and photos can take up a lot of space, so a higher memory can be worth the cost. Again, it depends on how you think it will be used.

[Pelado]

What will it be used for. If it is just for browsing the internet and playing games, any of those processors will be fine. Although the M1 chip is the new hotness, it's probably overkill for casual ipad use. IF she is going to get into some stuff like photo or video editing, then a faster processor would be nice.

Apps and photos can take up a lot of space, so a higher memory can be worth the cost. Again, it depends on how you think it will be used.

The primary reason for getting it is so that she can access the stupid Clubhouse app, which is only available through iOS right now. Which means it's pretty much guaranteed that within a week or so of my buying an iPad, Clubhouse will become available on Android and/or PC.

Right now, most of her computing happens on a touchscreen Lenovo Yoga laptop. If/when she gets a new iPad, I imagine she'll find that some things are easier to do on the tablet than on the laptop. The program she uses that is probably toughest on a processor is probably Canva, but I'm guessing that a lot of its processing happens in the cloud. I don't imagine she'll be doing much that is particularly hard on any of the aforementioned processors.

The allure of the "better" processor is more about longevity than about current performance. We tend not to upgrade very often. When we do upgrade, I like things to last for a while. I think the last iPad I bought was the second generation. And I'd tell her to use that, except Apple doesn't provide iOS updates for it anymore.

So here are the models with USB-C that I'm considering:

	iPad Pro (3rd gen)	iPad Pro (2nd gen)	iPad Pro (1st gen)	iPad Air (4th gen)
Processor	M1	A12Z	A12X	A14
Support for Thunderbolt/USB 4	Yes	-	-	-
Max brightness	600 nits	600 nits	600 nits	500 nits
Camera	12MP Wide 10 MP Ultra Wide	12MP Wide 10MP Ultra Wide	12MP Wide	12MP Wide
Zoom	2x optical 5x digital	2x optical 5x digital	5x digital	5x digital
Flash	Brighter True Tone	Brighter True Tone	Quad-LED True Tone	-
Front camera	12MP	7MP	7MP	7MP
Speakers	4	4	4	4
Security	Face ID	Face ID	Face ID	Touch ID

Not surprisingly, the latest generation iPad Pro has all the best stuff. Probably any of these will work just fine for my wife's needs. But I'm glad I put together this chart, because she hates the fingerprint scanner on her phone. So if I want her to be really happy with the purchase, I should probably go with one the Pro models with Face ID.

And now that I've looked at all these iPads, I now see that Clubhouse also works on iPod Touch. Hmmm.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I bought a Macbook Air recently - the new one with the new apple chip. That thing is awesome. Never gets hot, no fan, the battery lasts forever, and it is super light and portable. I rarely use my iPad anymore.

[Pelado]

I bought a Macbook Air recently - the new one with the new apple chip. That thing is awesome. Never gets hot, no fan, the battery lasts forever, and it is super light and portable. I rarely use my iPad anymore.

I'm seeing conflicting reports about whether or not Clubhouse works properly on MacBook.

[Northwestcoug]

So I'm thinking of getting an iPad for my wife. I didn't realize there are so many different versions now. Since I don't want to have to worry about another type of charging connection, I'm limiting the options to those with USB-C. The 11" Pro and the Air are at the top of the list.

I see the differences in processors like the M1 on the new Pro vs the A14 and A12 for some of the other models. The M1 seems to have a substantial performance advantage while the A14 looks best for battery conservation.

I'm not expecting that she'll need much storage space. There was one model - last year's Air, I think - that had just 64 GB. I don't want to go that low, so I was planning on 128 GB or higher.

What other differentiation between the iPad models should I be considering?

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I got Mrs. NWC the iPad pro with the keyboard for Christmas. She loves it. It does everything she needs it to and she likes the touch screen and pencil function. It has replaced most of what she did on the desktop.

If it is a gift meant to be used by more than one person, I'd recommend against it. It doesn't have functionality for more than one user account.