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  • PaloAltoCougar
    Semper infra dignitatem
    • Nov 2008
    • 16926

    #1

    Cy Young and the legalization of weed

    Junkie's link in the pro sports forum to Tim Lincecum's bust for pot possession brings up a question I've had about weed. Though I've smelled a lot of it over the years, I've never gotten high off of pot, so I'm curious about its effects. While I'm certain no one here has any personal experience, can anyone tell me if weed affects one's driving skills the way alcohol does? Does one get progressively more wasted the more one smokes (the way blood alcohol levels climb with increasing booze consumption)?

    I ask this because over the years I've warmed up to the idea of pot legalization, and I'd probably be on board if I were confident that it would not cause a material increase in driving accidents. Legalize it, tax it, and reduce a lot of jail and law enforcement expenses. DUI laws would remain in full effect. I also think there would be a lot less domestic violence if people were having a pleasant toke or two rather than getting wasted on Jack.

    Do you strongly oppose the legalization of marijuana?
  • I.J. Reilly
    Nobody's Fool
    • Apr 2009
    • 2949

    #2
    Marijuana slows down your reaction time, and affects your driving in that way.

    The high you receive depends on the concentration of the THC in the plant. You can have a "stronger" high, if that makes sense. It takes a few hits, depending on your preferred method of inhalation and the strength of your weed, to get high. Depending on type, the buzz can last for differing amounts of time and people sometimes react slightly different to different varieties.

    Being high has a much smaller effect on driving abilities than being drunk does. You can still see straight when you are high.
    Last edited by I.J. Reilly; 11-06-2009, 04:17 PM.

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    • creekster
      It is NOT a monkey!
      • Nov 2008
      • 22661

      #3
      Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
      Junkie's link in the pro sports forum to Tim Lincecum's bust for pot possession brings up a question I've had about weed. Though I've smelled a lot of it over the years, I've never gotten high off of pot, so I'm curious about its effects. While I'm certain no one here has any personal experience, can anyone tell me if weed affects one's driving skills the way alcohol does? Does one get progressively more wasted the more one smokes (the way blood alcohol levels climb with increasing booze consumption)?

      I ask this because over the years I've warmed up to the idea of pot legalization, and I'd probably be on board if I were confident that it would not cause a material increase in driving accidents. Legalize it, tax it, and reduce a lot of jail and law enforcement expenses. DUI laws would remain in full effect. I also think there would be a lot less domestic violence if people were having a pleasant toke or two rather than getting wasted on Jack.

      Do you strongly oppose the legalization of marijuana?

      Marijuna use does impari driving abilites (or so I have heard). The quesiton is really whether you would be more or less liekly to have people DWS (Driving while stoned). I recall reading some studies suggesting you would actually have a lower incidecen of DWS if it was legalized.
      PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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      • PaloAltoCougar
        Semper infra dignitatem
        • Nov 2008
        • 16926

        #4
        Originally posted by I.J. Reilly View Post
        Marijuana slows down your reaction time, and affects your driving in that way.

        The high you receive depends on the concentration of the THC in the plant. You can have a "stronger" high, if that makes sense. It takes a few hits, depending on your preferred method of inhalation and the strength of your weed, to get high. Depending on type, the buzz can last for differing amounts of time and people sometimes react slightly different to different varieties.
        Do you know if it's "testable" the way BAC can be determined instantly with a breathalyzer?

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        • Pheidippides
          Liberal Feminazi
          • Nov 2008
          • 14759

          #5
          Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
          Junkie's link in the pro sports forum to Tim Lincecum's bust for pot possession brings up a question I've had about weed. Though I've smelled a lot of it over the years, I've never gotten high off of pot, so I'm curious about its effects. While I'm certain no one here has any personal experience, can anyone tell me if weed affects one's driving skills the way alcohol does? Does one get progressively more wasted the more one smokes (the way blood alcohol levels climb with increasing booze consumption)?

          I ask this because over the years I've warmed up to the idea of pot legalization, and I'd probably be on board if I were confident that it would not cause a material increase in driving accidents. Legalize it, tax it, and reduce a lot of jail and law enforcement expenses. DUI laws would remain in full effect. I also think there would be a lot less domestic violence if people were having a pleasant toke or two rather than getting wasted on Jack.

          Do you strongly oppose the legalization of marijuana?
          I'll take a hit of whatever you're having.

          Actually, I've long thought that you should legalize it, commercialize it and tax it like alcohol or cigarettes. I think the same thing about prostitution as well.
          Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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          • creekster
            It is NOT a monkey!
            • Nov 2008
            • 22661

            #6
            Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
            Do you know if it's "testable" the way BAC can be determined instantly with a breathalyzer?
            I dont think there is a breathalyzer, but there is indeirct evidence, like how many bags of opened doritos are found in the car.
            PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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            • I.J. Reilly
              Nobody's Fool
              • Apr 2009
              • 2949

              #7
              Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
              Do you know if it's "testable" the way BAC can be determined instantly with a breathalyzer?
              I'm not sure about that. You can test fairly easily if someone has taken drugs (I think), but I don't know how you would determine someone's high.

              My bet, though, is that if there was whiff of making it legal, someone would develop a way to test it. You can be busted for DWI when you take prescription drugs and drive, so they must have some way of determining these things, or at least a judgment call.

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              • Art Vandelay
                Striving for mediocrity
                • Jul 2009
                • 10516

                #8
                Originally posted by creekster View Post
                Marijuna use does impari driving abilites (or so I have heard). The quesiton is really whether you would be more or less liekly to have people DWS (Driving while stoned). I recall reading some studies suggesting you would actually have a lower incidecen of DWS if it was legalized.
                Any truth the rumor, frequent bong hits is a common cause of poor typing?

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                • myboynoah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 21719

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                  Do you strongly oppose the legalization of marijuana?
                  Not only yes, but HELL YES!!!

                  I'm a real Neanderthal.
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                  For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • creekster
                    It is NOT a monkey!
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 22661

                    #10
                    Originally posted by I.J. Reilly View Post
                    I'm not sure about that. You can test fairly easily if someone has taken drugs (I think), but I don't know how you would determine someone's high.

                    My bet, though, is that if there was whiff of making it legal, someone would develop a way to test it. You can be busted for DWI when you take prescription drugs and drive, so they must have some way of determining these things, or at least a judgment call.
                    DUI/DWI does not require a test or a level for a conviction. You just have to be able to rpove intoxication or influence, which can be shown by erratic driving, etc. Driving with a BAC above thelegal limit is a crime regardless ofthe quality of your driving. Those are different things.
                    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                    • I.J. Reilly
                      Nobody's Fool
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 2949

                      #11
                      Originally posted by creekster View Post
                      DUI/DWI does not require a test or a level for a conviction. You just have to be able to rpove intoxication or influence, which can be shown by erratic driving, etc. Driving with a BAC above thelegal limit is a crime regardless ofthe quality of your driving. Those are different things.
                      There you go.

                      You have exposed my ignorance surrounding the laws about driving while under the influence of alcohol

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                      • SeattleUte
                        Faith crisis consultant
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 20837

                        #12
                        Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                        Do you strongly oppose the legalization of marijuana?
                        No.

                        But I've never tried it.

                        I've heard prolonged use causes man boobs.
                        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                        --Jonathan Swift

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                        • creekster
                          It is NOT a monkey!
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 22661

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
                          Any truth the rumor, frequent bong hits is a common cause of poor typing?
                          I resemble that remark!
                          PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                          • creekster
                            It is NOT a monkey!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 22661

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            No.

                            But I've never tried it.

                            I've heard prolonged use causes man boobs.
                            WHIle it can have hormonal effects, I think the man boobs are more likely to come from the snack food that follows the pot-induced munchies.
                            PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                            • I.J. Reilly
                              Nobody's Fool
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 2949

                              #15
                              As far as PAC's question about opposing marijuana's legalization, I'm pretty split on it. Since I'm a teetotaler and prohibitionist by religion, I'm pretty reluctant to legalize people recreationally mind altering. OTOH, the economic arguments for it are pretty strong, and as far as altering substances, it is pretty mild when compared against both alcohol and tobacco, albeit in different ways. Legalization would also help unclog the courts and jail system. Basically, I see both sides to it and am just fence-sitting until I find a really compelling argument, probably like many other American voters out there.

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