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    P.E.'s and "engineer" angst

    Who gives a rat's backside what job title anybody else has / uses. I'm not a P.E. nor do I have an engineering degree. But engineer has been in my job title (not by choice ... just my industry) pretty much my whole career.

    Who cares? Yet P.E.'s get all bent out of shape. Do MD's care that chiros are called "Doctors"? Or Ph.D's? We could come up with a bunch of other examples.

    It's just a word.
    "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."
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    I get pretty pissed when academic advisors refer to themselves as counselors.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
      Who gives a rat's backside what job title anybody else has / uses. I'm not a P.E. nor do I have an engineering degree. But engineer has been in my job title (not by choice ... just my industry) pretty much my whole career.

      Who cares? Yet P.E.'s get all bent out of shape. Do MD's care that chiros are called "Doctors"? Or Ph.D's? We could come up with a bunch of other examples.

      It's just a word.
      I have an engineering degree, but I'm not an engineer. You can have my unused title.
      This space is available.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
        Who gives a rat's backside what job title anybody else has / uses. I'm not a P.E. nor do I have an engineering degree. But engineer has been in my job title (not by choice ... just my industry) pretty much my whole career.

        Who cares? Yet P.E.'s get all bent out of shape. Do MD's care that chiros are called "Doctors"? Or Ph.D's? We could come up with a bunch of other examples.

        It's just a word.
        Ph.D's have a doctoral degree, thus they get called doctors.

        I have a Master's degree so I politely ask people to call me Master.
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        • #5
          I know a doctor in Memphis who made his wife address him as "doctor." So yes to some it is a big deal.

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          • #6
            Doesn't bother me.

            But I do get a chuckle out of some of the job titles using the word engineer.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
              Ph.D's have a doctoral degree, thus they get called doctors.

              I have a Master's degree so I politely ask people to call me Master.
              I hope your real last name is Bates.
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              • #8
                My MOS (Military Occupation Specialty) while I was in the Army was Combat Engineer. We kicked some serious ass and blew a lot of stuff up. It offends me that so many wussy paper pushers have disgraced the proud name of Engineer. I think to properly call oneself an Engineer a person should be required to blow something up.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Doesn't bother me.

                  But I do get a chuckle out of some of the job titles using the word engineer.
                  I do agree that it's overused, particularly in my industry. But I guess it's a "what's in a name" thing to me. Language evolves.
                  "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                    I do agree that it's overused, particularly in my industry. But I guess it's a "what's in a name" thing to me. Language evolves.
                    Sincerely,

                    Sweet 'Mexican' Food
                    Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                    There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                      Sincerely,

                      Sweet 'Mexican' Food
                      LOL! I have been pwned.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                        I do agree that it's overused, particularly in my industry. But I guess it's a "what's in a name" thing to me. Language evolves.
                        Is this a case of language evolving? I don't think it is overused. It is just overvalued (by some people).

                        Engineer (along with engine) has always been a pretty generic term.

                        Now some group comes along and tries to claim it as their own without any qualifier (i.e. civil, mechanical, electrical, locomotive, software).

                        It really does seem to parallel the whole "real" doctor thing.

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                        • #13
                          It kind of bugs me that DDD calls himself a lawyer.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                            Do MD's care that chiros are called "Doctors"? Or Ph.D's? We could come up with a bunch of other examples.

                            It's just a word.
                            FWIW, almost every doctor that I know finds it laughable that Chiros, etc. are called doctors. And they also find it funny and are bothered when a PhD calls himself a doctor without clarifying it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by UteStar View Post
                              FWIW, almost every doctor that I know finds it laughable that Chiros, etc. are called doctors. And they also find it funny and are bothered when a PhD calls himself a doctor without clarifying it.
                              I got irrationally annoyed one time when an optometrist referred to his years in "medical school."

                              I'm not a fan of chiropractors either, but whatever -- they're a type of doctor I suppose. A new trend I have seen recently is for nurse practitioners with PhDs to call themselves doctors -- I think that crosses the line.

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